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My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

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  • My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

    Hi folks


    My son purchased a used 2nd hand car by HP in June with 3 months free warranty.

    It wasnt cheap either, but he had 3 unfortunate breakdowns and its found to be the same recurring problem (Master cylinder on clutch).

    As you know we live in Wales, he broken down in London the other day, and the RAC ended up taking it to the nearest garage, my son broken down on a Red Route road, but there was naff all he could do about it, he did however have 2 passengers with him as well and he had to fork out £75 for them all to get home last minute on the mega-bus! "Ouch"

    And of course he had to fork out again for fuel to get down there to collect his car from the garage yesterday!

    Warranty approved of the work, but said my son firstly has to pay the amount of whatever the job comes to, then when they receive a copy of the invoice they will refund the amount back to him (surely this should not have been the case)? say if my son never had the money to pay in the first place??

    Now he called in to see the dealer yesterday to tell him about the recurring problem and all the dealer said was basically there was nothing he could do unless it happens again.
    But the point here is the warranty is being used up on the same part all the time, so the mechanic in London also gave the invoice yesterday that says this:

    Clutch Master Cylinder (replaced) £56.75
    Clutch Fluid. £4.50
    Labour: £105.00
    total = £199.50.

    Advisory:
    Clutch pedal feels quite stiff, and heavy, possible fault with clutch or bearing, or clutch fork, needs further investigation.


    So the above was done, but still needs further investigation, my son shown the invoice and the dealer just said "I cant do anything unless it happens again"
    That is not right and I know there are rights on this!!

    Now my son left it in a local garage to have it checked in the morning and is now using another car lent out to him where he has has to fill with diesel again! (More expense)!
    He has a job where it includes being "on call" so needs his car!

    Last night I was checking the OFT site about buying a used car "rights etc"

    The car when he purchased it last month was advertised as "Excellent Condition" Mechanically sound, all the good stuff basically!
    Now to break down 3 times in a month for the same problem is absolutely stupid!

    What are your thoughts please folks? and how would I go about getting his our or pocket expenses back to him? (I assume the dealer as they set it up, but he's not much cop)! and I really don't think he knows Consumers have rights! I would like to slap some paperwork in front of him!

    Cheers in advance.
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  • #2
    Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

    Look on the bright side - if the clutch is knackered, he's less likely to be done again for speeding. :grin:

    On the other hand, one might wonder if the jalopy was roadworthy. Check its MOT status (link) and its MOT history (link).

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    • #3
      Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

      LOL!!!

      Found this here too......

      http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/rep...08/oft1241.pdf

      Good idea on checking the history of it too, cheers for that ;-)

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      • #4
        Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

        http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...780#post360780 Post 2

        Hi Di

        Have you seen the above? (post 2) Think it might help?

        xx

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        • #5
          Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

          Thank you Miss FM, I was just about to look up exactly the same post as a quick way to find the links again.

          Di, whether it is worth rejecting because of the clutch is debatable. What sort of car is it - Make, age, mileage, value? This would help in making a decision as to whether or not to reject the car. Also, do you by any chance have a copy of the original advert? Clutches do wear out. If the master cylinder has been replaced, then for any of the other problems it is likely you might as well change the clutch at the same time. Depending on the make etc... would depend on the price. If you don't know anyone there who could do it, if you can drive 30 minutes up into the Valleys, I could get it sorted for a fraction of the cost of a garage for you as long as it's not a hydraulic clutch.

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          • #6
            Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

            Originally posted by labman View Post
            Clutches do wear out.
            Especially if some half-witted grease monkey had fitted it the wrong way round, with the "driving" plate being fitted to the gearbox and the "driven" plate fitted to the engine.

            If the master cylinder has been replaced, then for any of the other problems it is likely you might as well change the clutch at the same time. Depending on the make etc... would depend on the price. If you don't know anyone there who could do it, if you can drive 30 minutes up into the Valleys, I could get it sorted for a fraction of the cost of a garage for you as long as it's not a hydraulic clutch.
            Why might it have a master cylinder if it was not a hydraulic clutch? :nerd:

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            • #7
              Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

              Why might it have a master cylinder if it was not a hydraulic clutch? :nerd:[/QUOTE]

              Don't ask questions like that when a boyo from the valleys is tinkering. He's probably trying to fit an electro mechanical double clutch plate and using a big hammer to do it with:tinysmile_hmm_t2:

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              • #8
                Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                Originally posted by des8 View Post
                He's probably trying to fit an electro mechanical double clutch plate and using a Swansea screwdriver to do it with:tinysmile_hmm_t2:
                IFYPFY. msl:

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                • #9
                  Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                  Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                  Especially if some half-witted grease monkey had fitted it the wrong way round, with the "driving" plate being fitted to the gearbox and the "driven" plate fitted to the engine.


                  Why might it have a master cylinder if it was not a hydraulic clutch? :nerd:
                  Indeed - a bit of a dimwit comment, sorry! lol

                  Di - if you're saying the problem is recurring and exactly the same parts need replacing each time, I'd be inclined to reject the car and get your son to buy a different one. It has to be your call, but the master cylinder shouldn't keep failing.

                  At a minimum the dealer should take the car in and have a good look at it, regardless of whether or not the problem is manifesting itself at that point in time.

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                  • #10
                    Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                    Thank you all for your replies

                    Sorry I did not get back sooner, my son not been home to discuss matters further, so was unaware of whats going on, but up to now, the dealer is waiting for the mechanic to get back to find out the problem and hopefully will consider paying for the repair, he was informed of Consumer rights of used car buying lol!

                    My son's car is a Peugeot 207 16HD turbo, so a 2007 year with less than 50K on it I believe, will double check.

                    You've all been fab! Thank you.

                    I should know more tmoz

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                    • #11
                      Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                      If the dealer will pay for any necessary repairs, it will be happy days. Don't forget your rights last for 6 months, so even when the warranty runs out you've still effectively another three months for anything major. :beagle:

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                      • #12
                        Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                        That's good to know thank you!

                        Jamie only just purchased the car in June, so not that long back really, he also traded in his Corsa to help towards the finance, he had that one for years, so it was time for a change, but he certainly didnt expect a nice looking car he purchased to break down in that short time of him getting it.

                        I will keep you posted guys, cheers!

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                        • #13
                          Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                          Originally posted by di30 View Post
                          My son's car is a Peugeot 207 16HD turbo, so a 2007 year
                          And how old is the rear end of the car?

                          with less than 50K on it
                          And only used by a lady, country vicar for travelling to and from church?

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                          • #14
                            Re: My son's consumer rights buying used car/recurring problems

                            Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                            And only used by a lady, country vicar for travelling to and from church?


                            Remember Rodney's jalopy



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