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    Hi everyone,

    I've just received the attached parking ticket and was hoping for a bit of advice.

    At the time, I was parked on Curran Embankment in Cardiff (I've attached a street view screenshot - I was just behind where the red car is in the image).

    There were no road markings or signs where I stopped, and the road is listed as public and maintained at public expense. There's nothing indicating specific ownership or any restricted areas related to the signage.

    If anyone has experience with something similar or any guidance on how to approach this, I'd really appreciate the help.

    Thanks so much!
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  • #2
    Images below
    • Letter/fine
    • Street view
    • Sign on the wall - apologies it's blurry - 3rd icon down, states only park in marked bays. There are no road marks anywhere on the whole road.
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    Last edited by parkedcars; 15th April 2025, 16:34:PM.

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    • #3


      Regarding the sign another important bit you missed is "Permit Parking Only".
      That means if you don't have a permit but park there you are a trespasser.
      Trespassing is a whole different game in which the parking management can't take part!

      Regarding the road, altho it appears to be a public highway, areas of it down the sides seem to be private property.
      However it is not satisfactorily delineated.

      There are also problems for the parking company with their Notice to Keeper, so I would respond along the following lined:

      Dear Sirs,
      I have received your Notice to Keeper xxxxx for vehicle VRM xxxx

      You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to specify the period of parking to which this notice applies as prescribed by section 9 (2) (e) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

      There is no legal requirement to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.

      I do not expect to hear from you again, or your debt collectors, except to confirm that no further action will be taken on this matter and my personal details have been removed from your records.
      Yours etc


      They might not accept it as a valid appeal (cancelling charges doesn't produce an income for them) but it gets the ball rolling

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      • #4
        Hi DES8, many thanks for taking the time. I will do this and update the post.

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        • #5
          Update 3/6/25

          I received a letter from New Generation Parking Management, stating ''Unfortunately, you are outside of the appeals deadline and therefore you are unable to appeal to us or the IAS. We recommend settling the charge in order to avoid additional costs'.

          Any advice on the next steps would be much appreciated.

          Last edited by parkedcars; 3rd June 2025, 17:53:PM.

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          • #6
            Also these are new signs that they have recently put up and the other picture shows the area where I was parked and there are no markings.

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            • #7
              That is obviously a standard template letter sent out without anyone actually reading your letter.

              Just reply, if you have the inclination, telling them that you are appealing, neither to them nor the IAS, but advising them to read the relevant statute.
              Advise them that they should be aware of the details of PoFA2012 Schedule 4, and realise they cannot transfer liability for any unpaid charges from the driver to you the keeper
              as they have failed to comply with the mandated conditions.

              If they persist in pursuing this matter you will report them to their trade body, as well as vigorously defending any court claim they may care to initiate

              Do not identify the driver

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              • #8
                Hi DES8, many thanks for your response, I will do just that! I was trying to see if it is worth appealing to the IAS, but from what I have read and your comment above, there is no point!

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