MET Parking Fine

[Abbie]

Re: MET Parking Fine

You could try sending (with proof of postage)



& wait to see what happens.

(Credit for this letter goes to Sue Prior from another site....which I've just adapted to suit).

Btw, I'm assuming that all the NtK's are substantially the same, apart from dates/times & pictures?

Hi there,

I can't thank you enough for this. I shall send these letters for each of them and let you know how I get on. Yes, they are all the same apart from the dates/times.
Thank you again for your assistance, it's much appreciated [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION], also thanks to you too!

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

No worries, Abbie.

We may have to do POPLA.

Could you get some good pics of site signage?

& a look at the other 3 Ntk's, if you can pop them up here.

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

Another thought has occurred to me.

When parking co's access the DVLA database for keeper details, they must do a separate request for each separate event.
Sometimes when there are multiple events they sometimes 'overlook' this detail (after all, they've already paid for the details once, why waste money!)
So could you send the attached letter (suitably tweaked & ask for details spanning just before the first event to about a month or so after the last one).
There's no fee to DVLA for this, but get proof of posting.

[Registered keeper name & address]

DVLA Vehicle Record Enquiries Section
Longview Road
Morriston
Swansea
SA99 1AJ
[Date]
Re: Registration [XXXX]
Dear Sirs
As the Registered Keeper of the above VRM could you advise who has accessed my personal details with regards to this marque, I need to know what address was provided, how often the information has been requested and when did the DVLA send the keeper details out. Please advise the information with regards to events between [XXXX date] and [XXXX date]
I understand there is no charge for this information and look forward to your speedy reply.
Yours faithfully

[Name of RK]
The Registered Keeper

[Abbie]

Re: MET Parking Fine

No worries, Abbie.

We may have to do POPLA.

Could you get some good pics of site signage?



& a look at the other 3 Ntk's, if you can pop them up here.

Hi there, unfortunately I didn't manage to get a picture of the signage today but I attach the other "fines" for you. They are the same as the others really just different dates. Apparently the company has issued loads of them recently according to other people that I have spoken to today. They are all basically ignoring them but I don't feel comfortable doing that as I would rather not end up with a court case on my hands because of some jobsworth! What is a POPLA, I have never heard of this?

Many thanks and kind regards

[Kati]

Re: MET Parking Fine

What is a POPLA, I have never heard of this?

POPLA is the name of the 'independant' appeals service that you send an appeal to if/when your appeal to the company is rejected. Their decision is binding to the PPC (but not you) xx

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

POPLA = Parking On Private Land Appeals...the BPA independent appeals people.

I'll take a look at the NtKs in a while.

(I did post something else but then realised I was wrong).

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

Ok.

You are right to be wary of the 'ignore' advice.
That is now (& has been for some time) 'old hat', but it still persists.
Some firms are very litigious & many people have had court claims issued against them.
As it happens though, according to BMPA, MET have not done court so far this year.

So the choice is yours, but if it were me I'd do the parking co/POPLA appeal route.

Now for the possible argument.
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4, 9(2)(b)

(

2)

The notice must—

(a)

specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;

(b)

inform the keeper that the driver is required to pay parking charges in respect of the specified period of parking and that the parking charges have not been paid in full;

and 9(2)(f)

(f)

warn the keeper that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given—

(i)

the amount of the unpaid parking charges specified under paragraph (d) has not been paid in full, and

(ii)

the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver,
the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid;

Imho none of the Notices state this clearly....close, but no cigar!
It is a statutory duty to use the correct wording on the notice....hence the words "The notice must...."

I argued that for someone at POPLA...& won on that point.

[Abbie]

Re: MET Parking Fine

POPLA is the name of the 'independant' appeals service that you send an appeal to if/when your appeal to the company is rejected. Their decision is binding to the PPC (but not you) xx

Thank you Kati.
[MENTION=5553]charitynjw[/MENTION], I have now been sent POPLA codes for each of these and the letters all have the same narrative. Do I now need to appeal again?

Many thanks

Abbie

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

Yes, appeal to POPLA within the 28 day window.

[ostell]

Re: MET Parking Fine

The parking company have to send POPLA their version of events with a copy sent to you. You have a week to contact POPLA to fight against there comments. Be careful the late delivery to you.

[Abbie]

Re: MET Parking Fine

Yes, appeal to POPLA within the 28 day window.

Thwnk you for this. Do I just appeal using the same wording as the original letter you quoted from Sue Prior to POPLA?
Apologies if these sound like stupid questions. I just don’t want to get anything wrong!
Many thanks.

[ostell]

Re: MET Parking Fine

You use what yo had in your original appeal but spell it out for the POPLA assessors as if they are 5 year olds (they may be as far as we know!) . Specifically mention the failing POFA items and expand on it. There is a large multi page POPLA apeal on MSE forum somewhere. You also query their right to issue charges and demand that they produce the contract they are working on and a witness statement that it exists is insufficient.

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=4816822

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[Abbie]

Re: MET Parking Fine

The parking company have to send POPLA their version of events with a copy sent to you. You have a week to contact POPLA to fight against there comments. Be careful the late delivery to you.

[MENTION=39331]ostell[/MENTION], thank you for this. I am about to appeal online to POPLA for these. I did get a photo of the "signage" which frankly was atrocious and not clear in the slightest as it was badly damaged and ripped and not at all clear. Do I just appeal to POPLA with this argument?

Many thanks

[charitynjw]

Re: MET Parking Fine

@ostell, thank you for this. I am about to appeal online to POPLA for these. I did get a photo of the "signage" which frankly was atrocious and not clear in the slightest as it was badly damaged and ripped and not at all clear. Do I just appeal to POPLA with this argument?

Many thanks

Yes, use it in conjunction with the other stuff.
& include photos.