• Welcome to the LegalBeagles Consumer and Legal Forum.
    Please Register to get the most out of the forum. Registration is free and only needs a username and email address.
    REGISTER
    Please do not post your full name, reference numbers or any identifiable details on the forum.

Excel Parking - Appeal based on 14 day rule denied, next steps?

Collapse
Loading...
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Excel Parking - Appeal based on 14 day rule denied, next steps?

    I received a PCN/NTK from Excel Parking. As the keeper, I appealed based on PoFA 2012 and the 14 day rule. The contravention was 12/03/2024 and the notice was not issued until 02/04/2024. My appeal was based on the templates from multiple forums and is below:
    I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

    You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to deliver the notice within the relevant period of 14 days as prescribed by section 9 (4) of the Act. You cannot, therefore transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper. The alleged contravention is dated 12/03/2024 and was not issued until 02/04/2024 and was not received by myself, the keeper, until 15/04/2024.

    As there is no legal requirement placed on registered keeper to identify the driver, I will not be doing so. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn.

    I require you to cancel the parking charge and remove my personal information from your database. Confirmation of this is the only further communication I expect to receive.


    They replied on 03/05/2024 rejecting my appeal and inviting me to pay or appeal to IAS.

    They specifically say: "It is important we highlight that we will continue to pursue this matter on the reasonable assumption that you were the driver of the vehicle on the date in question until information/evidence to the contrary is provided."

    I realise now that they didn't actually mention PoFA so not sure if that was the right approach and I may have shot myself in the foot. They also mentioned that a ticket was purchased by the driver, this was never mentioned in my appeal but I assume they have a record of this. Is my next move to appeal to IAS? If so, do I still appeal based on the 14 day rule or do I appeal based on that they are assuming I was the driver?
    Tags: None

  • #2
    Attached are the PCN and appeal rejection
    Attached Files
    Last edited by 4WheelDave; 15th May 2024, 13:17:PM. Reason: Added appeal rejection letter

    Comment


    • #3


      Why bother to appeal to the non independent IAS.

      I thought by now the parking companies had realised that the reasonable assumption argument was a load of b******s and had stopped using it.

      I would just sit tight and let them waste their money chasing an alleged debt until such time as they sent me a letter before claim.
      But that is me

      Comment


      • #4
        Agree the appeal to the IAS is pointless, see my thread here Excel PCN 5 months after alleged contravention - LegalBeagles Forum
        Same situation as yourself, not the driver but RK, provided plenty of proof to Excel and IAS that placed me 30 miles away at the time and still the appeal failed. Stood ground for 18 months, court papers issued etc and then 3 days before Excel had to pay the fee to the court for the hearing on 7th Jun this year - they discontinued.
        I'll PM you with some pointers to consider.

        Comment


        • #5
          Thanks for the pointers. IAS just seems like a complete racket.

          I’m sitting tight and waiting to hear. Hopefully they will see sense and drop it before taking it to court.

          Comment


          • #6
            removed as posted on wrong thread
            Last edited by martynh99; 31st May 2024, 11:32:AM. Reason: posted on wrong thread

            Comment

            View our Terms and Conditions

            LegalBeagles Group uses cookies to enhance your browsing experience and to create a secure and effective website. By using this website, you are consenting to such use.To find out more and learn how to manage cookies please read our Cookie and Privacy Policy.

            If you would like to opt in, or out, of receiving news and marketing from LegalBeagles Group Ltd you can amend your settings at any time here.


            If you would like to cancel your registration please Contact Us. We will delete your user details on request, however, any previously posted user content will remain on the site with your username removed and 'Guest' inserted.
            Working...
            X