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  • #16
    So it is a PARKING CHARGE NOTICE not a PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE
    A civil matter and in court you dispute the charge, but not the harassment which is a separate matter.
    You may have grounds to initiate a separate claim against them under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 , but the bar is quite high.
    Their actions are possibly also an offence under sec 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970

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    • #17
      Ok thankyou didn’t want to come stupid , have i got a claim against for harassment also could you tell why they issued to take me to court but now ive got these idiots hounding me ?

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      • #18
        Surely the latter seems strange and doesn’t seem write , i never said i would never pay the original £60 but not the £160 plus cost because they never wrote to me about the iutcome if my appeal the only letter i got was 4 months saying it’s now £160 they upped the pcn and added £60 cost totally unjust because i was never given the option to pay the original £60 as per there terms and conditions.

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        • #19
          PCN is an acronym used for both Penalty Charge Notice & Parking Charge Notice. (Civil law.)
          If actioned via Nothampton CCBC, it is the latter.

          If you are intent on using harassment, imho you should do so via a counterclaim, though I tend to agree with des8
          I doubt whether their actions would reach the bar necessary for it to be considered a 'course of unlawful conduct', but that would be a matter for the court to decide.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mav68 View Post
            Surely the latter seems strange and doesn’t seem write , i never said i would never pay the original £60 but not the £160 plus cost because they never wrote to me about the iutcome if my appeal the only letter i got was 4 months saying it’s now £160 they upped the pcn and added £60 cost totally unjust because i was never given the option to pay the original £60 as per there terms and conditions.
            I'm not sure whether you answered previously, so.....have you at any time (in any communications, appeals etc ) positively ID'd or implied who was driving/parking at the relevant time?
            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #21
              There was only 2 options in the pcn form so yes i said it was my car but applead in the grounds i worked for the railway but never found out the conclusion of the appeal until4 months later, to which i should have been given the option to pay the reduced fee of £60 still as per their terms but they upped it to £160 when i phoned to post the £60 they refused to take it quoting it’s been 4 months to which i replied that’s not my fault that you never informed me of the out come if the appeal till 4 months later .

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              • #22
                Can you answer the question asked: did you identify the driver.

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                • #23
                  Yes i did ive already said !!!!

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                  • #24
                    Also it’s registered to me so how can i not say i wasn’t because no one else is insured to drive it

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                    • #25
                      Yes it is registered to you but that doesn't say you were the driver. I, and a lot of other people, could drive on my own insurance.

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                      • #26
                        There is a particular reason why whether or not the driver has been ID'd is important (sometimes crucial.)
                        It also would colour any advice or opinion given.
                        CAVEAT LECTOR

                        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                        Cohen, Herb


                        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                        gets his brain a-going.
                        Phelps, C. C.


                        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                        The last words of John Sedgwick

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                        • #27
                          Ive had a date for mediation now so going forward how do i say im not willing to pay rhe £160 without coming off sounding awkward? and that im only pay the original £60 which i was not able before due to there incompetence in not letting me know the out come about the appeal i made until 4 months later , and the only letter i recieved was a demand for £160 ?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mav68 View Post
                            It clearly states in the parking firms letter back in september 2018 that uts a pcn.
                            If this is the first postal PCN, could you post up a pic? (Front & rear, redact personal identifiers, leave all times & dates visible.)
                            Also pics of the site signs.

                            If you want to negotiate, do so from a position of strength; defects in the above might give you an edge.
                            CAVEAT LECTOR

                            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                            Cohen, Herb


                            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                            gets his brain a-going.
                            Phelps, C. C.


                            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                            The last words of John Sedgwick

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                            • #29
                              So your saying because they never wrote to me after my appeal they can do what they want , as i wrote on here before i should have been given the option to pay the reduced amount if the appeal was thrown out but i never was they sent me s lletter 4 months later demanding £160

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mav68 View Post
                                So your saying because they never wrote to me after my appeal they can do what they want , as i wrote on here before i should have been given the option to pay the reduced amount if the appeal was thrown out but i never was they sent me s lletter 4 months later demanding £160
                                Where have I stated that?
                                CAVEAT LECTOR

                                This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                                You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                                Cohen, Herb


                                There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                                gets his brain a-going.
                                Phelps, C. C.


                                "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                                The last words of John Sedgwick

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