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  • #16
    Re: council tax on a burnt out house

    Originally posted by karl t View Post
    If i have the house condemned what would be needed to get it back to being un condemned, I am just thinking in terms of building regs, would it then be treated as being a new build again ? Does anybody know about the "dangerous building" route ? i have seen buildings in Glasgow centre that are only the front wall with supports behind them, surely they are not paying tax on them ...
    Do you mean "Dangerous Structure", by any chance? The situation in England with regard to buildings deemed Dangerous Structures is that they must be repaired to ensure they are rendered safe. If it is in the state the building you have acquired is in, you will need to ensure you have taken steps to ensure people cannot gain access to it. You may put up shuttering or erect high security fencing to keep people out. It will depend on what procedures the local authority has in place.
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    • #17
      Re: council tax on a burnt out house

      It looks from the photo as though measures have been taken to keep people out already. Have to say to the OP, it also looks as though it could be very pleasant when fully renovated.

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      • #18
        Re: council tax on a burnt out house

        Originally posted by labman View Post
        It looks from the photo as though measures have been taken to keep people out already. Have to say to the OP, it also looks as though it could be very pleasant when fully renovated.
        If the main structure is sound, there is no reason why is shouldn't be quite a pleasant place to live in, LM.
        Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

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        • #19
          Re: council tax on a burnt out house

          Indeed - I was being serious when I said it looks as though it could be a nice house when renovated. It's something I would love to do if health and finances permitted! :beagle:

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          • #20
            Re: council tax on a burnt out house

            A lovely project I to would love to do it,my last project was to turn a barn that was 2 3 stone walls into 2 st house a lot of work but nice in the end

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            • #21
              Re: council tax on a burnt out house

              I admire your skills. Some of the properties round this part of Wales are selling for a song at auction as they need renovating.

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              • #22
                Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                It was in wales near lampeter I expect those at auction may not have planning in Cerdigion its hard to get it took the guy I did the job for years to get it

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                • #23
                  Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                  We're in the Valleys - there doesn't seem to be too much of a problem round here.

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                  • #24
                    Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                    The cottages we renovated in the eighties (post 8) are in Carmarthenshire (used to be Dyfed), just outside Llanybydder, near Lampeter.
                    They burnt down late 80's and we couldn't face rebuilding them again, so although they were fully insured we sold them on and moved to the coast. Pleased someone else renewed them tho..

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                    • #25
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                      • #26
                        Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                        Most of the rules and reg's regarding council tax are directed towards a "dwelling", in my opinion a dwelling is a place where someone could live, which definition of a dwelling would be the one to use in this case, i want to put forward that the structure is no longer a dwelling and therefore not liable for the charges.

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                        • #27
                          Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                          Originally posted by karl t View Post
                          Most of the rules and reg's regarding council tax are directed towards a "dwelling", in my opinion a dwelling is a place where someone could live, which definition of a dwelling would be the one to use in this case, i want to put forward that the structure is no longer a dwelling and therefore not liable for the charges.
                          This is how they define a dwelling for CT purposes:

                          http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/14/section/3

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                          • #28
                            Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                            i had a look at this
                            http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/14/section/3
                            Thanks Labman but still could not see a clear definition of a dwelling, i did however come across "non domestic exceptions"
                            Local Government Finance Act 1988
                            1988 c. 41
                            SCHEDULE 5


                            but cannot see anything for unhibatable buildings, can someone guide me in the correct direction ?


                            thanks karl


                            Ykarlou are here:1988 c. 41
                            SCHEDULE 5


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                            • #29
                              Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                              north lanarkshire council are also now trying to charge me 2500 pounds for boarding up the house and it was already done before i bought it, so basically its charging me for something thats not been done by them, which forum should this inquiry go into ?
                              thanks again
                              karl

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                              • #30
                                Re: council tax on a burnt out house

                                Originally posted by karl t View Post
                                north lanarkshire council are also now trying to charge me 2500 pounds for boarding up the house and it was already done before i bought it, so basically its charging me for something thats not been done by them ...
                                Do you have clear evidence (estate agents photographs, for instance), showing that the property was boarded up before you bought it?

                                Write to the Chief Executive, setting out events to date, and stating that their claim is entirely without foundation. If you feel inclined, trap them into issuing a completely bogus claim by not mentioning that you have sufficient evidence to prove your case.

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