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  • Issue with previous landlord

    Dear Sir,
    We are in a dire situation in dealing with our previous landlord. We got in a flat a year ago through some agency but later managed by the landlord. The landlord didn't protect the deposit. After more than 6 months, with my repeated requests to the landlord to provide proof of deposit protection, the landlord did not respond. So, I sent him a formal letter asking him to protect the deposit within 14 days or provide deposit protection letter if already deposited. The letter came back saying the address does not exist!! Apparently, the address put down by the landlord in tenancy agreement is non-existent because he did not want to share his true address. When he came around to our house to collect his posts (yes his posts were still coming to us!), I managed to make an arrangement with him that if he could not protect my 1.5 months deposit, I would not pay last 1.5 months rent of my tenancy and he reluctantly agreed for that (stated in email).


    Recently we had to move to another home and had to get a reference from him. He gave a false reference saying the flat had dampness and thus my letting agent could not progress with my tenancy application immediately. My letting agent gave few days to resolve the issue with my landlord. My landlord did not respond to my repeated requests to come home and have an inspection himself. It was a great mental stress to me and my wife about getting next home. I managed to let the tenancy agent know about all facts about my landlord and how the relationship got damaged because of the deposit protection. They took couple of weeks time to process my application by getting approvals from their top management and waiver from my new home landlord and finally allowed to go ahead. We finally moved to our new home after thoroughly cleaning the old flat. Please be mindful there was no inventory check for this one.


    Now, the landlord is saying I had to pay for repair costs around £160. £100 for bathroom wall decor and £60 for sofa covers cleaning. But, I only agree to one sofa cover dry cleaning which is not more than £20 and bathroom wall decor is debatable as the wall is vulnerable to shower (tiles are only half up to the ceiling). I also asked him to sort out my negative reference which he gave to obstruct getting my next home. But, he is now saying if I don't pay he would pass the details to debt collectors. What is the right course of action for me now? How can I be liable for something if landlord just asks some repair costs? Can you please advise if I should be really concerned of the situation? Please enlighten me with my rights and how I should respond. Thanks very much in advance.


    Terms of use -
    landord - 'Previous landlord'
    letting agent - 'Previous letting agent'
    Last edited by aknight; 18th May 2013, 16:24:PM. Reason: Formatting
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  • #2
    Re: Issue with previous landlord

    I have little doubt that someone else may pop along presently and give a more satisfactory reply, but I would be rather tempted to remind that landlord of the celebrated retort in the (unreported) case of Arkell v Pressdram. (link)

    After all, if you do not know his real postal address, how can you send him a cheque?

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    • #3
      Re: Issue with previous landlord

      Thanks for the reply. Well, I'm not sure if I understood the link you provided. But, anyway my previous landlord gave me his bank details to transfer the money.

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      • #4
        Re: Issue with previous landlord

        He seems to be "saying" lots of things but is he putting any of it in writing? Ask him to provide you with estimates for the work to be carried out because I doubt he has any intention of "repairing" anything. If there was no inventory when you moved in or when you moved out then there is no proof of the before and after condition so he can't take you to court since he has no evidence.

        He would have to pay a debt collector to collect the "debt" so I doubt that's nothing more than a threat. If he did you would simply tell the debt collector that you don't owe him any money - because you don't. Simples

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        • #5
          Re: Issue with previous landlord

          Thanks very much. Your words are relieving me a bit. What he said was first to give him the money so he can carry out repairs and send me back the invoices, which I hardly think he would ever repair them but rather would go in his pocket and the flat might go to other ill-luck tenants.

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          • #6
            Re: Issue with previous landlord

            He almost seems to sully the name of Rachman (link) :grin:

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            • #7
              Re: Issue with previous landlord

              He probably gave you a fake address because he didn't get permission from his mortgage lender to let the property. If you have any more trouble from him please post on here and I will tell you how to source the name of his mortgage lender on Land Registry so you can contact them direct to grass him up.

              I also doubt he was declaring your rent for tax purposes so maybe report him to HMRC too. Here's how to do that:

              http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/reportingfraud/help.htm

              I hope this helps you to feel more empowered against this rogue Landlord

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              • #8
                Re: Issue with previous landlord

                Thanks very much for your reply again. I have his correct address (if he is still here) now as before I was moving out he asked me to send all his posts to his address(I didn't send him though). That way he had to reveal his address.

                I truly appreciate your personal time spent in answering.

                Cheers,
                aKnight

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                • #9
                  Re: Issue with previous landlord

                  Look at this in a practical way. If you want shot of this man and you've already agreed to pay £20 for cleaning the sofa then why not send him that with a covering letter saying it's all you owe. Point out to him that a Landlord must accept that general 'wear and tear' happens to a rented property over time (because the courts do) so the bathroom wall 'damaged' by water from a messy shower is something he should expect and fix between tenancies. Remind him that there was no inventory taken at the start of the tenancy so there is no proof of the condition.

                  If he's not happy with that then "tough" just walk away from the situation and post up here if he gets in touch again. Ignore his calls and/or letters unless they actually threaten court proceedings.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Issue with previous landlord

                    Thanks. But, he didn't say he agreed to £20 (which is quite reasonable in dry cleaning a sofa cover!). Should I still send the money along? Or wait till the next thing to happen? Please advise.

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