Law Excerpts Relevant to Bailiffs and Evictions

[salsmoss]

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Milo presented a case where someone tried to use the notice to show trespass the judge threw the case out and awarded costs to the other side.
Do you know what that means.
It means that the argument does not work, it means that these notices have no standing in law, as far as the court is concerned they are so much waste paper.

I doubt it very much, if you can verbally tell a bailiff to leave and they refuse then im sure a notice saying more or less the same thing is the same in the eyes of the law. They send us notice of a liabilty order which we never see only one made up on microsoft word.

[gravytrain]

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I doubt it very much, if you can verbally tell a bailiff to leave and they refuse then im sure a notice saying more or less the same thing is the same in the eyes of the law. They send us notice of a liabilty order which we never see only one made up on microsoft word.

YOu can doubt it all you like it is a fact sadly.

The right to engage and present a liability order is not implied, this has been explained to you before, you can ask a bailiff to leave of course once this has happened.
But the OP' situation is completely different this is a property repossession, the bailiffs are there to reclaim the property not to levy goods.

[Karl101]

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Yes I have friends like that, they witness all sorts of things that cannot be verified ,(because it never happened).

So your friend's are liars huh, birds of a feather n all I guess and you have the audacity to call me a liar?

See the resent thread on the subject, bailiffs routinely ignore these notices, they have no standing in law.

Tried this have you? Twice now we have sent the bailiffs running because we know the law its ignorant cowardice type comments like yours & FORCEOFONE that make sites like this look spineless

At least learn the Law before spouting such idiocy and accusing those with more courage & knowledge than you of lying
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/43
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1977/45


Look and learn how those who have a pair deal with things!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAIcOdY7t-8
One of the reduced images from yesterday, that's all from me
Karl

[gravytrain]

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Oh dear, hit a nerve.

I think you will find that our understanding of the law complies with that of the authorities, and at the end of the day this is all that counts.

It is true that on some occasion bailiffs have failed to serve a warrant, but the debt or matter does not just desolve into the ether sadly, there is always the next day, they tend to keep going until they get what they are legally entitled to.
and yes I have been at several evictions sadly, on a couple the FOTL garbage was attempted and duly ignored, of course these were not videoed.

Really the only reason the show up on youtube is because they are exceptions, if they were commonplace they would be of little interest.

[gravytrain]

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Regarding the legislation, the problem is that it relates to UNLAWFUL eviction.

I thought you did not acknowledge legislation ? anyway foreclosure on a property by a bank is generally lawful, in term of that act. Of course if it isn't the act is very handy, is this relevant inn the OPs case.

If so the time to raise the point would be when the warrant was issued I would have thought, not by shouting at the bailiff who have been given the job of enforcing it.

[FORCEOFONE]

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The reason why i am so fond of this site is its in-depth knowledge base. Evey-one makes errors and mistakes, but are then corrected with substantiated reasoning with the required links to the statutory authority to support their assumption.

Since certain posters have arrived on the forum to try and berate very knowledgeable people, and undermine their reasoning. This cannot be allowed to continue as the forum offers informed advice to people in desperate need, not an ulterior motive by a select few.

All i have seen so far are many posters giving correct legislation and informed advice

AND TWO PEOPLES TWISTED POINTS OF VIEW, AND THEN TRY AND BULLY AND INSULT TO TRY AND GET THEIR OWN WAY

When insults start, people have lost the argument as they have noting left

Says it all that

And i will not be Silent as advised by a certain poster

[gravytrain]

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By the way i put this video on here some months ago, the issue was that the warrant was not correctly signed this was rectified and enforced the following day

[FlamingParrot]

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Totally agree

I will not comment any more on this, or offer advice to a site that charges a fee to desperate people

I'm just wondering whether this refers to this site at all or to another one, because LB doesn't charge any fees... :confused2:

Your post to a fellow respected poster is unnecessarily rude. You have no idea of Plan B's knowledge about anything really. For much of today you have posted one abusive post after another. You appear to think people don't know what you're doing - one thing you are certainly not doing is caring.

LB professes to be 'The Site That Cares.' The vast majority of the time we manage to achieve this. Just occasionally we get a poster who seems to be hell bent on derailing that aim, and I'm afraid you appear to be one of those posters.

Rather than ask others to be silent, it would be better for this site if you were to remain silent. Go elsewhere and say what you wish, but certainly for me I've had enough of your constant tautological statements and your insulting diatribe. When you start attacking someone who is trying their best to help someone with what they believe to be a real problem, then you should admire them for this, not tell them to be silent.

Arrogant to the extreme; rude and insulting; assumes they know better than everyone else all the time - I wonder if these traits remind others of anyone? They do me.

Whatever the answer to that, please treat members with respect.

Deja vu here as well!

Plan B does have a lot of knowledge of housing-related matters, both theoretical and practical. In fact, she even has a BAFTA for a documentary on the homeless! :yo: :yo: :yo:

[EXC]

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REMOVAL OF IMPLIED RIGHT OF ACCESS

I would remind you that you lost your implied right of access to this site when you were banned as Happy Contrails, so I hardly think that you are in a position to slide in through the back door and preach to us on the subject.

[labman]

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Does anyone else remember LP's which were scratched and they kept jumping back and playing the same bit over and over and over again? Does this thread remind you of that? It does me!

[FORCEOFONE]

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FLAMINGPARROT

All that case law that was posted was a cut and paste from a bailiff action forum

It charged £96.00 for advice

Legal Beagles does not, and never will i hope charge for advice.
Thats what makes it unique

[gravytrain]

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Does anyone else remember LP's which were scratched and they kept jumping back and playing the same bit over and over and over again? Does this thread remind you of that? It does me!

No one who has even a basic knowledge of the law really believes this stuff, the problem is that when it keeps coming up on forums like this it starts to seep into the public consciousnesses and becomes accepted as fact.

I think that Labman pointed out this already, and it is true that if you now Google implied rights of access LB comes up on the search together with the erroneous case authorities at the beginning of this thread.

I don't know what can be done to prevent people being taken in by this unfortunately, in some cases it is just harmless rubbish, but in some, realistic remedies are ignored on the belief that the ones prescribed here will pull the person back from the brink at the eleventh hour, invariably of course they don't.

[Sparkie1723]

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From what I make out of the cases listed in post 1..........they mainly apply to Bailiffs trying to "levy on Goods and chattellsand eviction
Gas, water and electricity issues are the ones that have been superceded by statute for public safety and security........they are not levy or eviction issues .....you have to put the correct cap on the correct head....................I don't think all other issues are subject to statute changes.....therefore the case law posted can be put forward as arguments of merit and it would be up to the Courts to agree or not.
I have said many times before that I have no legal knowledge I just apply my old fashioned logic...........and of course could be wrong as usual.

Sparkie

[FORCEOFONE]

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Tell a lie, or half truths often enough, people start to believe it to be the accepted truth

Governments are very good at it as an example

[gravytrain]

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From what I make out of the cases listed in post 1..........they mainly apply to Bailiffs trying to "levy on Goods and chattellsand eviction
Gas, water and electricity issues are the ones that have been superceded by statute for public safety and security........they are not levy or eviction issues .....you have to put the correct cap on the correct head....................I don't think all other issues are subject to statute changes.....therefore the case law posted can be put forward as arguments of merit and it would be up to the Courts to agree or not.
I have said many times before that I have no legal knowledge I just apply my old fashioned logic...........and of course could be wrong as usual.

Sparkie

there are many issues on there that have been revoked, much of the authority given is difficult if not impossible to source, so it is very difficult to verify, there tends to be a report of what a judgment meant and nothing to support it other than rhetoric. Case law and in particular some of the more ancient stuff is constantly evolving of course.

a lot is just plain wrong