Gas safety certificate

[Paulie1963]

I have a question i am living in private rented accomadation have been for 6 years i have only 1 gas safety certificate which was done last aug for a couple of years i have been complaining of a smell of gas and have reported it to the landlord on the gas check done last aug it said the hob was safe to use on his certificate as of today 1st of feb i instructed an engineer to check my supply because of this smell of gas for which i have been telling the landlord about and he has condemned the hob due to gas leak but the check done in aug said it was safe but these engineers have said this has been leaking for ages what is my next move do i report it to the hse and inform the landlord please help i have 2 children and no way of cooking

[wales01man]

Contact your Gas supplier immediately the Gas safety should be yearly

[Kati]

agree with wales01man ... I'll tag Crazy council Diana M for advice too xx

[Diana M]

Contact your Gas supplier immediately the Gas safety should be yearly

The Landlord is legally responsible not the supplier

See this > https://england.shelter.org.uk/housi...n_rented_homes

Di

[Diana M]

what is my next move do i report it to the hse and inform the landlord please help i have 2 children and no way of cooking

Yes!

Report this to HSE asap.

The quickest way to progress this is to contact your local/Council Environmental Health Team who should step in.

If you have alternative ways of cooking (microwave?) then use that in the meantime.

You and your children's welfare (Health and Safety) is paramount.

Di

[wales01man]

The Landlord is legally responsible not the supplier

See this > https://england.shelter.org.uk/housi...n_rented_homes

Di

The leak may be before or from the meter anyway the supplies may cut of the supply if its dangerous the landlord I suspect does not give a monkees about the OPs safety

[Diana M]

The leak may be before or from the meter anyway the supplies may cut of the supply if its dangerous the landlord I suspect does not give a monkees about the OPs safety

As I previously posted/said the Landlord is legally responsible/liable for this situation not the supplier.

Di

[wales01man]

As I previously posted/said the Landlord is legally responsible/liable for this situation not the supplier.

Di

Advice from gas suppliers if there is a leak is to contact them if the landlord does not have a current gas safety certificate do you think he cares that much? legally responsible is wishful thinking in this case the safety of the OP is more important than legal words .Sorry to be argumentive but this case case got my goat up

[Kati]

wouldn't the council H&S section have a say in this too??

[Diana M]

wouldn't the council H&S section have a say in this too??

Yes

The quickest way to progress this is to contact your local/Council Environmental Health Team who should step in.

Di

[Onestepatatime]

The gas engineer should be GAS SAFE registered, details should be on the report that was issued, a complaint to Gas Safe would be in order enclosing a copy of the second report condemning the hob, I suspect that unless the second engineer can prove that the hob had been leaking for sometime then the first engineer will get away Scot free if registered, if not then Gas Safe may look to bring a prosecution case against them.

Sadly as in most of these type of cases i.e. Against a landlord, then you may have repercussions of your complaint from the landlord, but in such a serious incident as a gas leak these should come second.

If you call the suppliers emergency number number you will have all of your supplied isolated if a leak is found, they usually remove the meter and cap the supply off, they will not rectify or isolate the individual faulty item.

[Paulie1963]

Thank you for your information the first engineers report is full of mistakes wrong address .saying that he serviced certain appliances when i know he did not. not checking a condemned fire and explaining why its condemned . The whole report is very hard to read the second engineer had trouble reading it but as for the box saying if the hob was in safe working order he put yes . Also the first engineer had to do the check twice as his first check was wrong he only checked the boiler and he had to come back and do a second check as for the hob the second engineer has capped off the hob now we have.no way of cooking so i am contacting the landlord but i also need to report this should i contact the the local council and hse?

[meellis]

The Landlord ultimately has the responsibility for the safety and up keep of the gas supply and all of their gas appliances within the property. Part of their duties is to have a landlord safety check carried out yearly by a registered professional. This professional has certain tests prescribed tests that have to be carried out but a test for gas leaks isn't mandatory unless someone has raised concerns. Like an MOT though the certificate is only indicating what the installation was like at that time point. The gas suppliers should not be called at this point if I am reading the posts correctly because the last engineer has made the property safe by disconnecting the offending appliance (and leaving the tenant with no cooking) so there is no leak for them to investigate. If the installation was considered contrary to gas regulations then the engineer should make a RIDDOR report to the HSE but I suspect it is only a failed gas hob not a bad installation. The OP can always call gassafe for advice on where to go next, they will probably advice them to go to the local council who will look into the situation and decide whether to present a case concerning the landlord not fulfilling their obligations by at least having a safety test carried out yearly.

[Paulie1963]

Thanks for your reply we have complained for.over 3 years and the landlord has do nothing about it other than employ an engineer to do a check which was wrong i have complained on a number of occasions but still no joy we are now without cooking facilities i have contacted the landlord but no reaponse so what is my next move

[meellis]

I would suggest you contact Gassafe to look into 1. the actions of the first engineer and 2. Ask their advice on how to deal with the landlord and his responsibilities.