Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

[ric1978]

I am asking for help because this is really affecting me and i am unsure on the best course of action, this is all complicated but i hope within this community i can get the justice needed.

I was previously in a relationship with a Police officer, throughout this turbulent time i stood trial for alleged assault ( I was found not guilty, and i would like to add that i acted in self defense when she attacked me with a knife, i still have the scar)
During this trial she lied on oath and the PSD have said there is no case yet a serving Police Officer lied on oath?

Also during my bail all my possessions (to which i retain receipts) and my operational medals which have been bestowed to me on behalf of the nation for serving this country in the Royal Marines Commandos for over 13 years were taken. I have sent solicitors letters, informed the Police and yet nothing?

Theft is to knowingly take someones possessions without consent so why is there no criminal proceedings when she took them (we were not married, only together a short time and thankfully no children involved).

I had my mail burnt by her which is a criminal offence and this again dismissed.

This is not about tit for tat and there is a lot involved i just want whats rightfully mine, i cannot afford solicitors and why is this not a criminal matter?

How can a serving police Officer who was back coursed in her training for being aggressive be trusted by the public when they are supposed to stand for honesty, integrity and morals.

Any help and guidance will be greatly appreciated i have bled for this country and i am also happy to go public

Thankyou in advance

[enquirer]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

...she attacked me with a knife ...

Was it ever acknowledged that it was she who had attacked you?

... PSD have said there is no case yet a serving Police Officer lied on oath?

There are plenty of cases - they are just trying to put you off.

Also during my bail all my possessions (to which i retain receipts) and my operational medals I have sent solicitors letters, informed the Police and yet nothing?

Taken by the former partner, presumably?

... so why is there no criminal proceedings [...] and this again dismissed [...] and why is this not a criminal matter?

Because the system is corrupt.


Now it's time to calm down and analyse the situation. You know that she is bent, and you know that the system is protecting her. What evidence do you have that will make a case stick?

[bluebottle]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

Have you referred this to the IPCC, yet? The IPCC has the power to initiate their own investigations into police misconduct where a police force is not taking a complaint of misconduct by a police officer seriously or attempting to brush it under the carpet.

[gravytrain]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

Have you considered making a civil claim for conversion. You could start the action in your local county court.

The tests for a civil claim are significantly less than they are in a criminal action.
Being a police officer, I doubt she would relish the thought of a CCJ, and she may just give up the goods after a correctly worded letter before action.

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

I had my injuries photographed by csi, told that i could not make a counter allegation until my trial ended, i did this and again was dismissed.

The Police Standards Department investigated and came to the conclusion that she did not lie, i dont know how this can be when it is in the court transcripts, witnessed by the barristers and the magistrates to which they even knew.

Yes my possessions and medals (Four) were taken by her.

The way i was treated in all respects is disgraceful, yes i understand they have to follow procedures but to be arrested, held for 20 hours in a cell, told i have 10minutes to get some belongings under escort and then drive 235 miles to a bail address was disgusting, my bail was 7 weeks and when i did return to the property i asked a neighbour to accompany me when i was given the keys, i would like to add that he was a serving police officer. I did complain to the IPCC about the way i was treated and nothing.

Am i at such a dead end

To make a case stick i have my receipts for my possessions paid for by my debit card (she cannot prove contribution due to being £19000.00 in debt at the time.

I did make a complaint to the police and the inspector at the time dismissed my claims and was disciplined when i reported my possessions and medals taken.

My injuries were photographed by csi (obviously she denies attacking me) i only put a restraining lock on her thats what she played on in court.

Thankyou for your help thus far

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

PlanB i only referred to the IPCC regarding the way i was treated throughout this. I have not complained to them about the police force but it is as i said to one detective that they are just looking out for their own

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

gravytrain - i am unaware of this as i am not legally literate, could you please explain a little more about "a civil claim for conversion"

i obviously have proof of my possessions ( e.g i came back from Afghanistan set a house up in a month and retained all receipts and paid for them on my debit card, also i was arrested at my dining table and when i went back 7 weeks later everything was cleared out, witnessed by a serving police officer)

Preferably i would prefer that it is a criminal matter as it is THEFT

Thankyou for your help

[bluebottle]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

Speak to the IPCC again about the wider issues involved and remember that misconduct in any police force that falls under the jurisdiction of the Home Office can be referred to the Home Secretary, especially if it involves the Chief Constable seemingly doing nothing about misconduct on the part of individual officers and the IPCC seem dense.

A police officer who perjures themselves in court and/or fabricates evidence of a crime or files a false report of a crime commits a serious breach of Police Conduct Regulations as well as breaking the law, generally. The officer you mention could be dismissed from the police service for -

a. Corrupt and Improper Practice;
b. Falsehood and Prevarication;
c. Criminal Conduct.

I am a retired police officer and am disgusted at the way you have been treated.

[gravytrain]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

gravytrain - i am unaware of this as i am not legally literate, could you please explain a little more about "a civil claim for conversion"

i obviously have proof of my possessions ( e.g i came back from Afghanistan set a house up in a month and retained all receipts and paid for them on my debit card, also i was arrested at my dining table and when i went back 7 weeks later everything was cleared out, witnessed by a serving police officer)

Preferably i would prefer that it is a criminal matter as it is THEFT

Thankyou for your help

Yes basically the problem with proving criminal liability is that you have to prove intent or wrong doing. In civil law all you have to show is that the person in possession of your goods, should not be.

Many times when it has been difficult to get a criminal conviction the claimant has taken the civil route, in criminal law the case must be proven ,"beyond reasonable doubt"; to win a civil case all you have to show is that on the "balance of probabilities" a tort has been committed.

This gives an idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_(law)

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

BB - Throughout this process i have maintained dignity, i have had the phone put down on me by the PSD and sworn to on the phone by them. I would like to add that i have never had any convictions and consider myself to be a model citizen, the way i have been treated by all is disgusting, it all started when i said i wanted to split from her. She has attacked me with a knife. Stolen my possessions but more importantly my medals and documentation. Lied on OATH (which was brought to the attention of the magistrates). Was heavily in debt. Lied on her application when joining (this was before i met her saying she was bisexual to play on the equality card) and did not pay rent on the shared property ( i paid my half even when on bail and subsequently lost my deposit)

I am at a lose end and currently off work in my new employment with stress from this, obviously there are always two sides to the story i am not perfect but the manner in which this has been brushed aside is simply not acceptable.

I am quite happy to go National Press and public, if it means getting my medals back. My father as spoke to his MP, i have a facebook group have wrote to national Newspapers and nothing i have also had the British Legion involved and also the Veterans service. I have left now but when attending the Cenotaph on Remembrance day without my medals it is heartbreaking.

When i put counter allegations in they said there were no case however when i posed this to them they contradicted themselves " If i said i had been attacked by someone with a knife what would happen" the police replied they would investigate it? so why when i make an allegation do they just rubbish my claims, i now live in kent and this all happened in somerset

I appreciate the time you have taken to look at this i have never felt that this is how justice is.

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

GT - thankyou very much, i will look into this however is there a time limit for civil proceedings from the date of them being taken?

[gravytrain]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

GT - thankyou very much, i will look into this however is there a time limit for civil proceedings from the date of them being taken?

Actions in tort are limited to six years under the statute of limitation act 1980, although if the theft was proven there is no time limit to making a civil claim.

[ric1978]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

GT - brilliant thankyou and to those on here who can help with peoples problems then i take my hat off to you

[enquirer]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

Follow the advice given by Bluebottle.

Contacting your MP might also be worth a shot, as might be contacting the prospective opposition candidate in the current Home Secretary's constituency.

[gravytrain]

Re: Stolen Medals, Possessions and Police Officer lying on oath

Follow the advice given by Bluebottle.

Contacting your MP might also be worth a shot, as might be contacting the prospective opposition candidate in the current Home Secretary's constituency.

Sadly as you say there are always two sides to a story, whilst I agree that you have been badly treated sometimes you have to realize when you are banging your head against a brick wall. I cannot see how ultimately you would not just receive duplicates of the responses you have already had. Of course if it makes you feel better to write a few letters and get it of your chest.

In my view it is better concentrating on what can be achieved, I do not believe any judge would find that your medals and goods should not be your property, personally I would start a civil claim and get my stuff back.
Whatever you do, let us know how you get on