• Welcome to the LegalBeagles Consumer and Legal Forum.
    Please Register to get the most out of the forum. Registration is free and only needs a username and email address.
    REGISTER
    Please do not post your full name, reference numbers or any identifiable details on the forum.

Whats likely to happen on the sentencing day re suspend/stay request?

Collapse
Loading...
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Whats likely to happen on the sentencing day re suspend/stay request?

    So id just like to know the likely outcome of my suspend/stay request and then my retrial appeal or request. The judge knows im not real world guilty only technically guilty because I stayed silent, hes not going to give me some awful punishment before retrial knowing im innocent is he, or any punishment at all?

    Ive given so much detail and evidence already that its very obvious that I cant be lying, a lie just cant get that damn detailed and fit the evidence, there's just this way of communicating that u cannot do if u r making up a lie, u cant just sprawl out a ton of detail fast then match it to another email full of fast high detail and loads more emails of the same and have them all match up , and also with the evidence match up too?








    Ive asked the following via email...

    Id formally like to ask the court to suspend or stay the sentence, because staying silent doesn't automatically mean real world guilt.


    Regarding the 2nd of July /sentencing. Which would be inappropriate.

    Then id like to appeal the guilty verdict.


    (ive obviously got a strong adverse inference defense, but its strong already because of the evidence such as hospital vists and cctv in the cell, me having to move cell, me telling my support worker that i needed to rush the interview out the way because I needed to go to hospital/had more pressing needs, physically shaking, police pick ups prior, 2 hospital visits prior , them deliberating if they could interview me or not , my reaction to my mums voice in recent court even Im not even fit enough to do the recent court date I needed to know what she said to counter it but i had to block it out, block my ears or she'd depress/panic me badly etc etc etc )



    Below is a letter from my solicitor...





    Your Case before the Magistrates’ Court – 2
    nd
    July 2026 at 2pm
    I write to confirm that, at the Ipswich Magistrates’ Court on the 16
    th
    June 2026, I represented you for Trial in
    relation to a charge of Common Assault, arising from an incident on the 11
    th
    March 2025 involving your
    mother, to which you had previously entered a Not Guilty plea.
    In consultation prior to the hearing, you repeatedly confirmed that you were unwilling to provide any
    instructions regarding the incident with your mother on that date and that you would not give evidence
    regarding this at Trial, although you wanted to raise what you described as ‘intellectual’ and ‘hypothetical’
    points with the Court. You were advised that the Court would only allow testimony and submissions which
    related to the subject matter of the Trial, and that if you gave evidence it would have to be in relation to the
    alleged events with your mother on the 11
    th
    March 2025. You confirmed that you did not want to give
    evidence, that you understood the potential consequence of this in terms of an adverse inference and that
    you appreciated that the absence of instructions limited the scope of any potential cross examination of
    your mother’s evidence to the point where a conviction was almost inevitable. You acknowledged these
    issues and were advised regarding the procedure in Court.
    The Trial proceeded, with your mother giving live evidence and, notwithstanding the absence of any
    instructions, being cross-examined to some effect in relation to inconsistencies in her evidence. However, at
    the conclusion of the Trial, and after hearing closing submissions, the Magistrates’ found that the Prosecution
    had proved their case and therefore returned a Guilty verdict.
    Your case was adjourned to the 2
    nd
    July 2026 at 2pm to enable the Probation Service to complete their
    report addressing all sentencing options. You were granted bail to attend Court on this date by 1.30pm with
    the following conditions:


    It is very important that you return to Court as required, as any failure to do so may amount to a separate
    offence, result in your further arrest and lead to the trial proceeding in your absence. For similar reasons,
    you must strictly comply with the conditions attached to your bail, and notify us immediately should you
    anticipate or experience any difficulties with regard to any of these requirements.
    It is also very important that you engage with Probation and attend at the appointment on the 18
    th
    June 2026 at
    10am at Peninsula House in Lower Brook Street.
    I trust that this is satisfactory and will arrange representation for you at the next and any subsequent
    hearing. In the meantime, I can be contacted at the details in the accompanying email should you require
    any further assistance.
    Yours sincer
    Last edited by 8t8y89; 28th June 2026, 04:54:AM.
    Tags: None

  • #2
    For advice on this you should contact the solicitor whose email you quote.

    The court will not accept emails as a request to change your sentencing hearing nor as an application for an appeal.

    As your solicitor will be representing you at the sentencing hearing they need to know what you have emailed to the court. So you should send them a copy of your email.
    All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
      For advice on this you should contact the solicitor whose email you quote.

      The court will not accept emails as a request to change your sentencing hearing nor as an application for an appeal.

      As your solicitor will be representing you at the sentencing hearing they need to know what you have emailed to the court. So you should send them a copy of your email.
      Ok thanks I will email him, the problem is he doesn't email back, but it should be enough so hes the guy that has to do it for me. Thanks bro!

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
        For advice on this you should contact the solicitor whose email you quote.

        The court will not accept emails as a request to change your sentencing hearing nor as an application for an appeal.

        As your solicitor will be representing you at the sentencing hearing they need to know what you have emailed to the court. So you should send them a copy of your email.
        I just want to know what to expect on the day? Am I going to be cross examined? Is he merely going to read out my punishment?

        Comment


        • #5
          I sent this (To my Solicitor)

          Id formally like to ask the court to suspend or stay the sentence! (since its a technical silence based guilt, not a real world guilt)

          If the suspend/still is rejected Id like to request a punishment thats reasonable under the circumstances ie im likely to be found not guilty in retrial because I literally havnt broken the law, so punishing me with something like forced work cant be recovered but a fine or conditional discharge or a tag can later be recovered or has less impact "when" im later found not guilty!

          Regarding the 2nd of July /sentencing.

          Then id like to appeal the guilty verdict.


          I will hand over my adverse inference defense soon. Poor instructions given to me by a solicitor online a long time ago. Early on I did say I feared for my life and safety and there's lots of hard evidence early on to support my late defense such as the cell CCTV and call for help, me requesting to go to hospital, me fainting, me shaking, bad reactions to sound, a cell change because of sound, the 2 hospital visits on the day or very close to it, the policeman taking me to my mums house, me possibly mentioning arrhythmic heart beats on the police call, me telling the support worker that there's more important things to the situation than me being fit for interview/legal matters, and even me in court unable to listen to my mum or counter her points out of fear of getting depression or panic from her voice (this is what was affecting me) I have a whole page for my adverse inference defense but its my first time making such a defense

          Kind regards
          Last edited by 8t8y89; 28th June 2026, 15:59:PM.

          Comment


          • #6
            I mean I couldnt even participate in court properly for the guilty sentencing I had to block my ears and my mums voice out because I fear getting intense* panic or depression from it. So I couldn't do court properly I couldn't listen to her points and counter them or counter them in my defense for the next court date, if shes back in the next court date I cant perform properly their either!

            Does this have any bearing on the guilty verdict they gave me? Or in general?
            Last edited by 8t8y89; 28th June 2026, 16:18:PM.

            Comment


            • #7
              https://sentencing.uk/guides/what-ha...encing-hearing

              Comment


              • #8
                You will appear in court and be sentenced. You can appeal afterwards. The verdict will not be overturned on the day.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                  You will appear in court and be sentenced. You can appeal afterwards. The verdict will not be overturned on the day.
                  Will I be able to suspend or stay the sentence?

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    ................
                    Last edited by 8t8y89; 30th June 2026, 09:33:AM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      THe courts may suspend or stay the sentence you have no right to is this in the magistrates or higher court

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        You will not be able to delay sentencing. You can appeal afterwards within a time limit and the case will be reheard by 2 magistrates and a judge

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Are Appeals guaranteed?

                          As in getting a 2nd court case?

                          How do I improve my chances of getting a successful appeal?

                          From my specific situation can you guess what is best for me to do?


                          New information I couldnt really perform properly in my court case, because I had to block my ears from my mothers voice/mental health problems in reaction to it, (my intention was to stay quiet anyway but I was making hypothetical points and trying to undermine her also) I dont know what she said, so i couldn't counter it then and I cant counter it for the next court date , then if shes speaking again its the same situation

                          But more than that im innocent and I have a powerful self defense case full of evidence that I didnt use because of bad advise , I also have what i think is a strong adverse inference defense. I also have truth on my side vs complexity and a cross examine

                          Theres a really quite extreme level of injustice also im abused by her my whole life, then im having torture level mental health problems, then she does her nutter behavior cons the police and gets me arrested, so the last thing I want is to have my appeal rejected
                          Last edited by 8t8y89; 1st July 2026, 06:04:AM.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            2. Identify Legitimate Grounds for Appeal
                            An appeal is not a second chance to tell your story; it is a review of whether a significant mistake happened during your first trial. Successful appeals usually rely on one of the following: [1]
                            • Errors of Law: The trial judge gave improper directions to the jury or wrongly admitted/excluded crucial evidence.
                            • Material Procedural Irregularities: A significant mistake or bias occurred that resulted in an unfair trial.
                            • Fresh Evidence: You have obtained new, credible evidence that was unavailable during the trial and is significant enough that it might have changed the jury’s verdict. [1, 2, 3, 4]



                            I made a significant mistake does that count (by staying silent bad instruction)

                            There's loads of evidence in terms of police solicitor Dr Hospital and social worker witnesses CCTV etc and they were not utilized the first time around because I just stayed silent

                            The only maybe error on their part is allowing me to be unable to hear my mum because of mental illness and still carry on like Im capable enough to perform in court fairly, but I can also see that blocking my chance of a retrial because for me to perform fairly in court theyd need to shield my mothers voice from me and then read out what she said to me themselves if they have to go to extra effort it may make them more likely to decline the 2nd court date
                            Last edited by 8t8y89; 1st July 2026, 06:24:AM.

                            Comment

                            View our Terms and Conditions

                            LegalBeagles Group uses cookies to enhance your browsing experience and to create a secure and effective website. By using this website, you are consenting to such use.To find out more and learn how to manage cookies please read our Cookie and Privacy Policy.

                            If you would like to opt in, or out, of receiving news and marketing from LegalBeagles Group Ltd you can amend your settings at any time here.


                            If you would like to cancel your registration please Contact Us. We will delete your user details on request, however, any previously posted user content will remain on the site with your username removed and 'Guest' inserted.
                            Working...
                            X