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  • Police have stolen 5 of my electronic devices

    Bridgend Police Station in South Wales seized my 5 electronic devices in February 2024.
    1 gaming laptop
    1 works laptop
    1 tablet pc
    2 mobile phones

    They refused to give me a receipt of these items.
    The police appointed solicitor at the time said they will give 4 of these back as they don't have the passwords and that the phone, which they do have the pin for, the solicitor would help me get back within 5 working days.

    The solicitor won't return any of my calls and sent me a lengthy document to say they won't get involved.
    The police station refused to give me a receipt for these seized devices.

    The police station also refuses to answer the phone.
    I filed a web portal query with South Wales Police months ago, no response.
    I have filed an official complain with South Wales Police and no response.
    I have emailed every legal aid solicitor in South Wales and no response.
    I have emailed the Magistrates Court and they said they don't deal with.

    I have discovered that the police have broken two laws.

    Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 - Section 19(2)
    (2)The constable may seize anything which is on the premises if he has reasonable grounds for believing—
    (a)that it has been obtained in consequence of the commission of an offence; and
    (b)that it is necessary to seize it in order to prevent it being concealed, lost, damaged, altered or destroyed.
    There was an allegation of a single instance of an alleged crime. 5 devices were seized and none returned. As there was only one allegation of a single instance of an alleged crime there is no legal justification to hold onto 5 devices for 9 months as had they actually spent any time investigating anything they would have eliminated devices for the investigation of an alleged single instance of an alleged crime.
    Furthermore had a copy been made of an alleged single occurrence of an alleged crime then it would not be necessary to keep hold of any single device, let alone 5 devices. This has resulted in South Wales Police breaking the law related to Section 19(2) of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984.

    Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 - Section 22(5)
    (4)Nothing may be retained for either of the purposes mentioned in subsection (2)(a) above if a photograph or copy would be sufficient for that purpose.
    The alleged crime was alleged to be a single email. An email exists on an email exchanges and not an electronic device. This is not grounds to keep 5 electronic devices indefinitely and doesn't take over 9 months to:
          a) investigate an email,
          b) investigate an email chain,
          c) create a copy of an email, and/or
          d) create a copy of an email.
    As such, there is no legal justification to keep the devices this long or any further. This has resulted in South Wales Police breaking the law related to Section 22(5) of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984.

    If they had a case against me I'd be charged but I am not.
    It's been 9 months.
    How do I get my £4,500 worth of electronical devices back?

    Background: I was harassed by British Gas after they broke the law and charged me ABOVE the legally permitted rate for electricity for 2 years, they ignored every query and evidence that I submitted to them, they threated me with solicitors, debt collectors and affected crediting rating while they had prior knowledge to: The debt was illegal, The entirety of the debt was in query, That I had am vulnerable and that I have Complex PTSD. They took the course of action in full knowledge that it would trigger my Complex PTSD then got me arrested and sent to prison. Why can't they get arrested for illegal billing, harassment and discrimination of a disabled person?



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  • #2
    You have avenues to complain, I'm not sure you have gone about things the right way.

    'I was harassed by British Gas after they broke the law and charged me ABOVE the legally permitted rate for electricity for 2 years, they ignored every query and evidence that I submitted to them, they threated me with solicitors, debt collectors and affected crediting rating while they had prior knowledge to: The debt was illegal'

    Contact your local Councillors and MP.


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    • #3
      This is a continuation of the OP's previous thread. The OP's electronic devices were seized after the OP's arrest for threatening to kill British Gas staff, presumably in the email referred to above.

      Suing British Gas - Harassment, Psychological Damage, Loss of Incomes - LegalBeagles Forum
      All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by echat11 View Post
        You have avenues to complain, I'm not sure you have gone about things the right way.

        'I was harassed by British Gas after they broke the law and charged me ABOVE the legally permitted rate for electricity for 2 years, they ignored every query and evidence that I submitted to them, they threated me with solicitors, debt collectors and affected crediting rating while they had prior knowledge to: The debt was illegal'

        Contact your local Councillors and MP.

        Local MP, Senedd Member, Ed Milliband (who was shadow energy minister at the time), Ofgem, Panorama, Dispatches, Watchdog, BBC Xray, Martin Lewis, Channel 4 Investigations, London Metro, The Sun, Daily Mail, The Standard, The Mirror and Money Saving Expert, Western Power were all contacted, with complete email trails and evidence. Zero responses, so they didn't care either

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
          This is a continuation of the OP's previous thread. The OP's electronic devices were seized after the OP's arrest for threatening to kill British Gas staff, presumably in the email referred to above.

          Suing British Gas - Harassment, Psychological Damage, Loss of Incomes - LegalBeagles Forum
          Although related, this pertains to the South Wales Police and not British Gas.
          British Gas do not hold my electronic devices illegally, South Wales Police do.

          The other thread would be commercial law, discrimination, harassment and personal loss related. This is a different line of enquiry requiring different answers and different expertise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by vaughanash View Post

            Local MP, Senedd Member, Ed Milliband (who was shadow energy minister at the time), Ofgem, Panorama, Dispatches, Watchdog, BBC Xray, Martin Lewis, Channel 4 Investigations, London Metro, The Sun, Daily Mail, The Standard, The Mirror and Money Saving Expert, Western Power were all contacted, with complete email trails and evidence. Zero responses, so they didn't care either
            Do you have a Law Centre or CAB office near you.

            This is easy to resolve, but needs 'third party' intervention.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by echat11 View Post

              Do you have a Law Centre or CAB office near you.

              This is easy to resolve, but needs 'third party' intervention.
              Went to CAB three times, didn't offer any help, said I need a solicitor hard to afford and can't get a loan now that I've been made too ill to work.
              Not heard of a Law Centre before, google map says there's one called Speakeasy in Cardiff but the website is don't so cannot verify if it is one at the moment, shall try again later.

              Thank you for the suggestion.

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              • #8
                Also many university Law depts offer a free law clinic to the public

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vaughanash View Post
                  Although related, this pertains to the South Wales Police and not British Gas.
                  British Gas do not hold my electronic devices illegally, South Wales Police do.

                  The other thread would be commercial law, discrimination, harassment and personal loss related. This is a different line of enquiry requiring different answers and different expertise.
                  I know. But to advise on HOW to get them back posters need to know WHY the police have them.

                  All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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