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    What are the implications of using somebody else's address to get around bailiffs eg. PCNs CCJs and so on.
    Can tenant/owner of house used by debtor simply state that address is used exclusively for receiving mail
    and that debtor does not live there and has no belongings/assets or interest in the property at said address
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  • #2
    Are you on the electoral register at that address?

    CAVEAT LECTOR

    This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
    Cohen, Herb


    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
    gets his brain a-going.
    Phelps, C. C.


    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
    The last words of John Sedgwick

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    • #3
      Originally posted by peterpiper

      No, not on the electoral register
      No, not on the electoral register at that address

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      • #4
        But you are on the electoral register somewhere?
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb


        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.


        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
        The last words of John Sedgwick

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        • #5
          Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
          But you are on the electoral register somewhere?
          No. Never been on any electoral roll. Not on purpose, just never bothered to register

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          • #6
            Fine

            Possible Ł1000 fine, that is.
            https://news.bristol.gov.uk/news/cou...-register-form

            You can officially opt out, but you should do so 'properly'.
            https://www.gov.uk/electoral-registe...-open-register

            Of course, there will always be folks who can 'skim below the radar'; you may well be one of them.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZWvi0MaIZs

            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #7
              There is no law forbidding use of another's address, but if that use is designed to obtain a benefit fraudulently the user may be guilty of a criminal offence
              e.g. using a false address to obtain cheaper car insurance or gain access to a "better" school.

              If it is done with the owner's knowledge, the owner of the address could be implicated in the fraud as well.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by des8 View Post
                There is no law forbidding use of another's address, but if that use is designed to obtain a benefit fraudulently the user may be guilty of a criminal offence
                e.g. using a false address to obtain cheaper car insurance or gain access to a "better" school.

                If it is done with the owner's knowledge, the owner of the address could be implicated in the fraud as well.

                No attempt to obtain any benefit whatsoever be it car insurance or gov benefits.
                No fraud intended or committed
                Owner of house has given permission to use his/her address
                The electoral role letter cited above by Charity NJW is not applicable

                And apologies for the delay in answering


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                • #9
                  So not illegal, but do you want the hassle of HCEOs calling?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by des8 View Post
                    So not illegal, but do you want the hassle of HCEOs calling?
                    I don't know what HCEO means. Never came across that

                    The owner/tenant of borrowed address can reply with a set phrase such as

                    "The addressee does not reside at this address but mail for that addressee does
                    arrive here which is then passed on to the addressee”

                    Not a hassle for owner/tenant of borrowed address who, of course, is not obliged
                    to sign for service of documents either or other special mail

                    The above suggestions do seem perverse but wanted to understand, as stated in
                    my original post, the legal implications

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                    • #11
                      One thing that happened to me in this situation was I lost my 25% single occupancy Council Tax benefit (my son always used my address). One other thing to consider is if the owner/tenant claims any benefits, they could be affected.
                      HCEO = high court enforcement officer.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jinxer View Post
                        One thing that happened to me in this situation was I lost my 25% single occupancy Council Tax benefit (my son always used my address). One other thing to consider is if the owner/tenant claims any benefits, they could be affected.
                        HCEO = high court enforcement officer.
                        Neither owner/tenant claims benefits and no single occupancy council tax benefit either.

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                        • #13
                          In this day & age, very few people are completely untraceable.
                          & many firms have access to highly sophisticated 'track & trace' methods. (There are firms that specialise in such activities....& are used by others for that very purpose.)
                          CAVEAT LECTOR

                          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                          Cohen, Herb


                          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                          gets his brain a-going.
                          Phelps, C. C.


                          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                          The last words of John Sedgwick

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jinxer View Post
                            One thing that happened to me in this situation was I lost my 25% single occupancy Council Tax benefit (my son always used my address). One other thing to consider is if the owner/tenant claims any benefits, they could be affected.
                            HCEO = high court enforcement officer.
                            ,*

                            scaremongering Mr*HCEO

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by peterpiper View Post
                              ,

                              scaremongering MrHCEO
                              I'm not scaremongering, what I posted actually happened to me. I even went to court as I refused to pay the 25% discount and as usual, the court sided with the council. I've lived at the same address for over 30 years and for the last 15 no one has been registered on the electoral roll at my address, not even me. I get letters stating no one is registered to vote at this address quite often and sometimes they hand-deliver the forms but they go in the bin with the tvl letters. I pay the council tax as I can't find a way not to. I've never been issued a fine for not being on the electoral register though. To be honest I don't even know why I'm trying to explain myself to you I only posted to show a possible pitfall to your idea, which may mean nothing to you but may have a consequence for somebody else who reads the post.

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