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    I work for the NHS and i am a member of a union.Managment and unions ( about 4 different unions alough one union unison has by far the most members and reps)
    In a nutshell managment and unions have very regular meetings to discus and alter varius terms and conditions of employment yet I and many of my co workers no nothing of what is been discussed at these meetings untill a policy comes out that has been ratified by the unions.
    Surely this cannot be right
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      I cannot offer much advice but must say The union represents you and your colleagues so ask them why and tell them you want to know what they are discussing on your behalf

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        Originally posted by fencehouses View Post
        I work for the NHS and i am a member of a union.Managment and unions ( about 4 different unions alough one union unison has by far the most members and reps)
        In a nutshell managment and unions have very regular meetings to discus and alter varius terms and conditions of employment yet I and many of my co workers no nothing of what is been discussed at these meetings untill a policy comes out that has been ratified by the unions.
        Surely this cannot be right
        I find myself in a very similar position working for a large public sector organisations. Your union reps are voted in by its members to discuss matters and deal with your terms and conditions on your behalf. Local branch reps should conduct regular meetings to gather information from members. This should then be fed up to regional officials who deal with management. The elected members of unions are trusted to represent the members best interests. It is a lot of work for union officials to consult members on every single decision (remember they are also workers and are often allocated a limited time off by managment to carry out their union duties). Best thing to do is speak with your union. If you are still not happy, become a branch official yourself and change things.

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          It is my opinion that it is the union reps duty to inform his members of meetings and ther contents before taking it upon themselves to act on there members behalf and if the workload or anyother matter prevents them from informing there members and gathering there members opinions then they should ask for time and facilities to ensure that there members are fully up to date with any matter that they may be called upon to sanction.This is simply NOT happening.

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            The Union is paid for by you they owe you at least the courtesy of informing you of what they are discussing on your behalf before they decide for you insist they do .

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              The unions have had many many many meetings with managment and many many policies have been disscussed and "Ratified"by the unions yet I and my co workers only get to know about a policy when its in power.
              What is managment and union legaly obliged to do when having meetings to disscus policy change ect??
              And also if ther is one union with far greater members and reps than other unions how can votes be fair??

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                Originally posted by fencehouses View Post
                I work for the NHS and i am a member of a union.Managment and unions ( about 4 different unions alough one union unison has by far the most members and reps)
                In a nutshell managment and unions have very regular meetings to discus and alter varius terms and conditions of employment yet I and many of my co workers no nothing of what is been discussed at these meetings untill a policy comes out that has been ratified by the unions.
                Surely this cannot be right
                How it works, if an employer/ its management comes up with a new policy (terms affecting existing employ), the union rep informs the other employees of its effect and options afterwards. The union, supposedly anyway attends meetings as an intermediary on the employees behalf to represent those in terms of law who cannot represent themselves.

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                  Originally posted by Openlaw15 View Post
                  How it works, if an employer/ its management comes up with a new policy (terms affecting existing employ), the union rep informs the other employees of its effect and options afterwards. The union, supposedly anyway attends meetings as an intermediary on the employees behalf to represent those in terms of law who cannot represent themselves.
                  This does not happen I do not even know who my rep is so i doubt he or her knows i am one of there members. I pay my money they decide to put themselves forward for the role to me they should find out who they represent and make contact and tell them what is going on .In my case and many many others this is not hapening

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                  Originally posted by Openlaw15 View Post
                  How it works, if an employer/ its management comes up with a new policy (terms affecting existing employ), the union rep informs the other employees of its effect and options afterwards. The union, supposedly anyway attends meetings as an intermediary on the employees behalf to represent those in terms of law who cannot represent themselves.
                  This does not happen I do not even know who my rep is so i doubt he or her knows i am one of there members. I pay my money they decide to put themselves forward for the role to me they should find out who they represent and make contact and tell them what is going on .In my case and many many others this is not hapening

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                    They should be informing you as per [MENTION=77627]Openlaw15[/MENTION] stated - However i think the NHS has a collective agreement with unions, so your options would be limited at best anyway, as it would be a take it or leave it situation in most cases where variations to employment contractual terms are concerned. As for NHS policies, well the NHS can change their policies at any time with or without agreement, whether that results in strikle action though is a different matter!

                    https://www.gov.uk/employment-contra...ive-agreements - Only brief i know, but it gives you an idea.

                    Personally contact your union rep and ask why the union is not informing you of any changes prior to them becoming enforced, or even giving you the option to vote on them. After all they are there to represent employees that are members of the union, and therefore should give its members a say when such changes effect them by way of a vote!
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