Bujon - Employment Tribunal Help Please

[Bujon]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

You need to remember most of these claims never get to an actual tribunal hearing.

I have handled three myself and all were settled my mutual consent a few days before going into the tribinal. The tribinal needs a minimum of 48 hours to vacate the hearing so it is pushed right to the wire.

Guess I need to hold firm and be fully prepared to go! How would someone approach me regards a mutual agreement that late in the day?.....and assume I have the option to refuse. My schedule of loss is for circa £10k

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

You need to remember most of these claims never get to an actual tribunal hearing.

I have handled three myself and all were settled my mutual consent a few days before going into the tribinal. The tribinal needs a minimum of 48 hours to vacate the hearing so it is pushed right to the wire.

[Bujon]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Here's an example of a good one.

http://www.lrdpublications.org.uk/do...sStatement.pdf

My witness statement is a chain of events with accurate dates and a description of what happened. I haven't referred to any points within the bundle!! Even though my bundle substantiates my statement. I haven't even put my bundle in any particular order as yet, I was under the impression I simply sent the other side a pile of documents (evidence) and also the WS's! One day to go so no time to change


Also given that I haven't yet received all evidence from my request to the employers rep, I was under the impression that the actual bundle was copied and submitted to the tribunal in a few weeks, i.e. this first swap is simply to exchange docs with the other side and see where we stand?, rather than to put into an order and reference? Although I wouldn't assume I could insert number points to my statement at a later date? i.e. (see bundle page 5)?

[mariefab]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Here's an example of a good one.

http://www.lrdpublications.org.uk/do...sStatement.pdf

[FlamingParrot]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

As my ET approaches fast I have a couple of days to produce and swap my witness statements. I am wondering how much detail to put into this? I am simply relying on my emailed evidence as a reaction to each of 5 separate incidents to prove balance of probabilities.

i.e. the fact that I reacted in the way that I did at the time is proof enough.

Any thoughts??

Include anything that's relevant to the point you are trying to make without making it unnecessarily long and confusing.

This is a bullying and harassment case and a couple of breach of contracts is the legal angle...wasn't sure whether I should mention my "tact" or not?

Without more details, it's hard to comment further. :mmph:

Do have the respondents WS so you can actively responds to their statements.

nem

That's not how it usually works, both sides are supposed to draft their own WS with their own sequence of events as they see them, rather than being a response to the other side's. However, once you get the other side's WS you should make your own comments against each paragraph and pass them on to your solicitor (if you have one) or take them with you to the hearing so you'll know what questions should be asked in order to debunk what they're saying. :thumb:

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Then your claim to the Tribunal is sound

Good luck

[Bujon]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Bujon

I have to ask

I take it you submitted grievances etc, what was the outcome of those grievances??

Yes I did the full grievance procedure, and my grievance was not upheld, I appealed that decision, and the appeal investigations was to not uphold my grievance either. Throughout the grievance and appeal process I provided all the evidence several times over inclusive of other Witnesses account, plus documentation on definitions of bullying etc. Basically I couldn't do anymore than I did

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...and at no point was I asked my expected outcome should my grievance be upheld.

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Bujon

I have to ask

I take it you submitted grievances etc, what was the outcome of those grievances??

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

The judge would have done a case telephone conference between you and the respondents solicitor.

He would have decided then if an order was needed to exchange. It is common now to do a sequential exchange with the option of enclosing any extra document anytime up to the actual hearing

[Bujon]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Not exchanged anything as yet! so this will be simultaneous exchange.

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and my other WS is actually 4 pages long (double line spaced, but is a full and frank account of their personal experiences of the perpetrator rather than witness to my incidents.

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Looks to me they have agreed to do a sequential exchange of witness statements/court bundle

[nemesis45]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

As my ET approaches fast I have a couple of days to produce and swap my witness statements. I am wondering how much detail to put into this? I am simply relying on my emailed evidence as a reaction to each of 5 separate incidents to prove balance of probabilities.

i.e. the fact that I reacted in the way that I did at the time is proof enough.


Any thoughts??


This is a bullying and harassment case and a couple of breach of contracts is the legal angle...wasn't sure whether I should mention my "tact" or not?

Do have the respondents WS so you can actively responds to their statements.

nem

[judgemental24]

Re: Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

Your witness statement as a whole should be no longer han an A4 Sheet if at all possible

You need to make the events run in order as the paragraphs progress in the order the events happened. Keep those paragraphs short

Do not waffle, less is more

Each email should link to another as an example and letters/telephone calls received

Remember to sign as a statement of truth

Make sure you have copies of those emails, letters etc, one to the respondent, one to the court, one for yourself in the court bundle

[Bujon]

Witness Statement Detailed or not so much?

As my ET approaches fast I have a couple of days to produce and swap my witness statements. I am wondering how much detail to put into this? I am simply relying on my emailed evidence as a reaction to each of 5 separate incidents to prove balance of probabilities.

i.e. the fact that I reacted in the way that I did at the time is proof enough.


Any thoughts??


This is a bullying and harassment case and a couple of breach of contracts is the legal angle...wasn't sure whether I should mention my "tact" or not?

[Bujon]

Re: Assistance advice required on an unusal set of circumstances

Thanks folks, there will be 4 witness statements in all, and with a start time of 10:30 each day, that is possibly why. I'm not sure the perpetrator is going to be happy at me being able to cross examine them!!??