Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

[John4444]

A long time ago , 1983 , but only finding new information out now and suffering from illness after 1983 accident until now. It seems that my accident at work was not reported properly. Should I now write to HSE Riddor and send them information I have regarding this accident ? After this accident a charge hand arranged for a work colleague to take me to the hospital , I was kept in and ended up leaving my job through injuries. Never heard anything about accident at time or Tribunal etc. Recently tried to obtain work records via FOI request ito my former employers e accident book etc etc but was told they did not hold this information after so long. I wrote to HSE for any info but they could not help. Is it best to report this accident to HSE Riddor , even so late ? , regards , John

[leclerc]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Can I ask you why you are asking for the information that is over 30 years ago?

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Because it is important to me. It is possible to go back such time regarding Accidents at work if you suffer certain illnesses and/or get new information. Please do not reply to my posts if you cannot think of anything constructive to say

[leclerc]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Jon444, the reason I have asked is that it is highly unlikely that a record exists of that if it did that those records may have already been destroyed since usually the timeframe should be 6 years or statute of limitations. In point of fact I went back in time to 2004 to guidelines issues by reading which stated 5 years.(link to 2004: http://www.reading.ac.uk/web/FILES/h...H_SRecords.pdf )

John, your medical records are kept forever including written records and so if you went to hospital then medical records would exist but as to what the law stated in 1983 in regards to Health and Safety, if we take a slightly later copy which stated 5 years then the likelihood that records may not exist anymore.

Please remember as well, not to bite at a hand that might be attempting to help otherwise perhaps others might not want to ask/give advice to you either. Just a polite rebuke for words on a page.

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

That's much better lol. Of course my former employers may well have destroyed these records but sometimes it has been difficult to obtain information more recent from them , I have copies of information they still have regarding my employment which I received from another agency , so when they say they have no information regarding my employment whatsoever , then less than 2 years ago they sent documentation regarding my employment in 1983 to this other agency , which I obtained via FOI. What is important is that it seems that a serious work accident was not reported should have been. Of course I have hospital and/doctors evidence. Please take note and be aware that some posters may have or had not just physical but psychological issues that prevent/ed action at certain times , instead of jumping in like you did

[leclerc]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

John444, I asked the question why now simply because of the time lapse(and I am bloody nosey ). As I said, words on a page but you have now got me quite interested in this since you have evidence that they do have information which they have passed on. If they have stated under the Data Protection Act that they do not have the information and you have evidence to the contrary then write I might be minded to make a complaint or seek advice from the Information Commisssioner's Office: http://ico.org.uk/complaints

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Thanks , I don't have copies of FOI requests now but suppose I could send again ,particularly as I have some new info. The documentation I have is showing information to another agency regarding my employ and maybe more. Not got to hand but I think it shows info they gave about my employ in 1983 , to this other agency in the 90s and 00s. The IC gave the usual Data Protection act thing last year but I did not have this new info then. I think I'll be getting back to him on this , thanks for quick link

[CleverClogs]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Who or what is the other agency?

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Why do you ask which other agency ?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

I asked which "other agency" was involved because I wanted to know!

I don't know who, other than the HSE, would be at all interested. The company's insurers would want to be informed at the time, but not ten or twenty years afterwards.

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Depends if the Company's insurers were told at the time. If new information comes about at a later date and the Company did not follow proper Legal procedures then it is as relevant today as it was then , if Laws are found to have been broken and subsequently said Company denies now having any details of certain dates/documents and I can prove otherwise that they do hold information. Understand that this is ot about YOU , and I have to be careful with certain things

[CleverClogs]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Understand that this is not about YOU ,

I never supposed it was!

and I have to be careful with certain things

Also understood.

[SpringerSpaniel]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

If it is a relevant injury or condition, you may be able to claim Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit, if you are more than 14% disabled in total by long term effects of the injury / condition. I am not aware of any time limit for claiming this.

[Celestine]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

When I worked at the Council, it was quite usual to receive requests for information up to 50 years old in regard to asbestos exposure. We always supplied whatever we still held; which was often not a lot.

[John4444]

Re: Former Employer reporting accident to HSE Riddor

Certainly is relevant. I only became aware of IIDB/REA a very long time after accident and the gaining of new information and info I should have received , also I have only been supplied with a Tribunal decision that is incorrect regarding injuries. Maybe if I have only recently been supplied with this incorrect Tribunal report (foi) I could challenge for a new Tribunal as it has a compltely different injury on it. I am aware also of the appaling decisions regarding backdating claims to only 3 months.