Employee Confidenciality Rights

[Wilkie Senior]

Hello newbie here

Sorry "Confidentially " i will learn to spell when a grow up!

Not sure if this is the right forum but

I am a senior manager in a SME, a small section of the company not under my authority, have i feel had their confidentiality rights interfered with, i am not sure if i am just annoyed for them or am justified in my anger.

Basically its reveiw time in the business, we all are reviewed directly by one of the owners (actually a nice honest fair person, whom i respect, but not the most business savvy person around)

The manager (less senior than I) who is in charge of these four people, due to be reviewed by one of the owners, asked them all what they were going to raise in the review meeting and why. obviously trying to guide comments away from recent massive cock ups, and possible a dash of paranoia.

I feel this is not correct fair, and possibly a infringement on their rights, before i go in doing my enraged, this is not cricket etc stance, i wondered what other members thought or if anyone can confirm is this is against employment law, the spirit of, etc

many thanks Brian

[charitynjw]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

Hi Wilkie Senior & welcome to Legal Beagles.

At the moment, given what you say, nothing unlawful has been done yet.

However, if they were to suffer from victimisation or harassment because of what they might/would say, that's a different kettle of fish.....

[enquirer]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

You are probably right with regard to your analysis of the other managers motivation. However, as charitynjw says, nothing has actually happened yet.

[Wilkie Senior]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

HI there

Many thanks for the replies. i thought nothing illegal as such

Just my sense of fair play i would never do that to my staff, i am trying not esculate the issue, but it annoys the hell out of me!

I have raised my concern with the owners, about this, and mentioned to the people concerned to write it down in the diary & note any further conversations etc in relation to this matter

The manager concerned has just made another cock up, over the P11Ds, hes not filed them, to HMRC, and hes got the wrong cars to the wrong people & the NI numbers are mixed up. if there was an icon for facepalm!! ha ha

Thanks again folks much appreciated

Best Regards

Brian

[charitynjw]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

As regards any concerns about the 'confidentiality' issue, their should be an agreed grievance procedure.

It would be anticipated that this was used prior to further action (eg Employment Tribunal)

[bluebottle]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

Hi Brian

If this junior manager has not filed HMRC forms as required within the statutory time-limits and failure to comply carries a penalty, my gut-feeling is that the business owners need to be put in the picture as to what is going on, especially if it could result in a black mark against them, personally, or the business or both.

BB

[Wilkie Senior]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

HI Chaps

Yep there is a grievance procedure, but as i advised the people concerend document everything that may be of relevance, and if something happens you are not happy about put this to the MD jointly and ask for a meeting, that is minuted!

BB your absolutely right, it has been pointed out, i had to calm one director down he wanted blood ha ha.

As, i say "look at what screwed up rather than who" first.

looking at the bigger picture i t would seem to me that the accounts manager is being made to punch above his weight i think, or just lazy, ihow can i say this without it coming out wrong as you not allowed to say anything anymore.

The owners & the manager in question are from er the mmm same ethic group (god know what the correct PC term is), which results in a lot of wagons being put in a circle & lots of face saving!


Rather than just saying oops sorry my mistake what do i / we need to do to correct this ASAP.

Oh the joys of a the office, glad i will be out rest of this week and most of next :-)

regards brian

[bluebottle]

Re: Employee Confidenciality Rights

Is the legal status of the business a sole trader, unincorporated partnership, limited liability partnership, limited liability company or public limited company? If the owners of the business are not keeping a firm grip on the tiller, the rocks marked HMRC and BIS are going to smash the good ship Business to smithereens.