Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

[Eloise01]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

Unacceptable in what way and to whom?

I think that is rather moot. The OP has agreed they did, admitted it to the employer, and the employer has the comments posted.

[leclerc]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

Unacceptable in what way and to whom?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...antic-facebook

See above for one example.....(I have thousands more btw)

[Eloise01]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...antic-facebook

See above for one example.....(I have thousands more btw)

And isn't that the problem? There ARE thousands more, and many more waiting to be found. I actually know of employers who, when they are looking to get rid of an employee actually go to Facebook before they go to timesheets and expenses claims!

[enquirer]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

I think that is rather moot. The OP has agreed they did, admitted it to the employer, and the employer has the comments posted.

If someone posts on Foolbook that 'my employer is a jerk', is that really Gross Miscounduct? I would want to know a lot more detail before jumping either way. Are we in a situation where no one can say anything because everyone will be offended by something?

[leclerc]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

If someone posts on Foolbook that 'my employer is a jerk', is that really Gross Miscounduct? I would want to know a lot more detail before jumping either way. Are we in a situation where no one can say anything because everyone will be offended by something?

If I called you an idiot and I also had work friends on my facebook page and ridiculed you, do you not think that would constitute gross misconduct?

[enquirer]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

I actually know of employers who, when they are looking to get rid of an employee actually go to Facebook before they go to timesheets and expenses claims!

True! It amazes me how people go on these sites and spill their guts ...

[leclerc]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

True! It amazes me how people go on these sites and spill their guts ...

They should then SAR them for the employment file(you'll be amazed what is inside them ).

[enquirer]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

If I called you an idiot and I also had work friends on my facebook page and ridiculed you, do you not think that would constitute gross misconduct?

No. I'm an adult.

If on the other hand, the statements were clearly defamatory, or were such as to damage my professional standing, that might be another matter.

[MissFM]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

If, however, you were self employed you could have as much fun as you liked ridiculing your employer - and actually only get payed for work you did and get no payed holidays, sick pay, redundancy, pension and so forth...

[FlamingParrot]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

Or you could not be on Facebook, never tweet anyone, and have a professional identity which has it's own legal existence entirely seperate from who you are personally so that really annoyed employers can't find you. Works a treat I have found! I found out long before the internet even existed how easy it was for a very annoyed employer to find you. And took steps....

Indeed, although FB is very useful for keeping in touch with family and old friends, I don't tweet and don't log on FB very much but it has been invaluable to restore ties with people I hadn't seen in over 20 years and even to end a 20 year long 'family feud'. To me, life is more important than work! :grin:

[FlamingParrot]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

They should then SAR them for the employment file(you'll be amazed what is inside them ).

Or not as the case may be! I SARd both my employer and the company they outsourced to, and got a box (the size used to accommodate 5 reams of paper), yet there was hardly anything of substance there, after 6 years of slavery, endless disagreements and a long investigation into my internet activities, there wasn't a single email or communication where they actually said anything negative about me, or anything to suggest they knew about my websites even a day before they suspended me. The whole thing was sanitized and you can't do much about it, can't go to the ICO arguing non-compliance when they've sent you several reams by recorded delivery, can you? But it was all chaff and no wheat!

[leclerc]

Re: Should you be aware an act is gross misconduct before committing it?

Or not as the case may be! I SARd both my employer and the company they outsourced to, and got a box (the size used to accommodate 5 reams of paper), yet there was hardly anything of substance there, after 6 years of slavery, endless disagreements and a long investigation into my internet activities, there wasn't a single email or communication where they actually said anything negative about me, or anything to suggest they knew about my websites even a day before they suspended me. The whole thing was sanitized and you can't do much about it, can't go to the ICO arguing non-compliance when they've sent you several reams by recorded delivery, can you? But it was all chaff and no wheat!

Mine had everything I needed to know and gave me the chronology that put other facts I knew into context. I knew when they knew, I knew how they found out it was me and I knew everything else.....