Company withholding payment - freelance issue

[MissFM]

Re: Company withholding payment - freelance issue

Believe me I know! I think we have discussed previously that my brother actually knows more about copyright than I do - but even his knowledge is strictly limited to his area of work (which isn't law!). In our previous debate on this it was music. That he knows. The best I can do on this, unfortunately, is to know that "breaking into someones website, even with a key" is a serious criminal and civil offence.

As an aside, my very close friend painted me four paintings as a gift. She signed them. She isn't famous or anything (though I think she's great and ought to be). I had to have them appraised for insurance because they are original works of art. The appraiser told me that because they were given to me unconditionally, I own the copyright (which affects insurance values).

With absolute respect ,Eloise, I think your insurer is incorrect there - but it just goes to show....

[CleverClogs]

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Very funny cleverclogs my mistake i guess your perfect then i could post up my thoughts of you but theres children about still foor near 3 grand a couple of hundred might seem a good idea or do uyou offer any other advice 100 percent guaranteed to get the guy his money back?

I agree that it would be wise to seek more specialised advice before shutting off the website or altering it in some way.
As for your other comment,

[MissFM]

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Bit of a bummer being an artist

[Eloise01]

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With absolute respect ,Eloise, I think your insurer is incorrect there - but it just goes to show....

Appaiser - not insurer. I doubt my insurer would know which way is up!

[Inca]

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FIL had a caricature done and signed by artist,we used the caricature at his funeral on Order of Service,,artist whinged we didn't ask him,,told him we didn't have to as it belonged to us absolutely.Same as Eloise,we have paintings that Grandad did insured (cos they're priceless to us) and it affected the insurance quote.

[CleverClogs]

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As an aside, my very close friend painted me four paintings as a gift. She signed them. She isn't famous or anything (though I think she's great and ought to be). I had to have them appraised for insurance because they are original works of art. The appraiser told me that because they were given to me unconditionally, I own the copyright (which affects insurance values).

With absolute respect ,Eloise, I think your insurer is incorrect there

I'm sure that he was mistaken.

In the past, some of my photographs have been published. I did not assign the copyright of those images, but did license their publication. Some of those photographs, having already been published in Woodworker magazine, were subsequently published again in another two magazines.

[CleverClogs]

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Bit of a bummer being an artist

Or so Georgio Vasari reckoned about Leonardo da Vinci. msl:

(Vasari's Lives of the Artists - link)

[MissFM]

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,,artist whinged we didn't ask him.[/SIZE]

see? xx (lol Inca)xx

[MissFM]

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I'm sure that he was mistaken.

In the past, some of my photographs have been published. I did not assign the copyright of those images, but did license their publication. Some of those photographs, having already been published in Woodworker magazine, were subsequently published again in another two magazines.

Well CC - you should have had editorial control, given permission and so forth...

[MissFM]

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wonder what the OP will think of all this?

[Eloise01]

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FIL had a caricature done and signed by artist,we used the caricature at his funeral on Order of Service,,artist whinged we didn't ask him,,told him we didn't have to as it belonged to us absolutely.Same as Eloise,we have paintings that Grandad did insured (cos they're priceless to us) and it affected the insurance quote.

Ah - it sn't just me then! I have several (ooops, thinking about it, up the "several") originals, and this was always what I was told - unless you are contracted to copyright, it somehow gets lost. I doubt any of the artists will care that much. I'd love to say I have an eye to value - but the value is only to me! I know what I like! I suppose the reality of the test is that there are very few famous artists alive - the value of their art seems to grow only after death!

But if you are genuinely concerned about keeping copyright and intellectual property rights - you should take legal advice as to how to do this within the law. You cannot depend on it accruing because you created it. I haven't read all the site small print I admit - but I would a bet you don't have copyright on what is typed here becasue most sites maintain copyright to themselves. It's a rare forum these days that doesn't. So willing to be corrected if LB doesn't, but most do!

[Eloise01]

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I'm sure that he was mistaken.

In the past, some of my photographs have been published. I did not assign the copyright of those images, but did license their publication. Some of those photographs, having already been published in Woodworker magazine, were subsequently published again in another two magazines.

That;s different - licensing gives a degree of control. I have also sold photographs and they are copyrighted to me. But that is stated as part of a legal contract of publication rights. It does not mean that every photograph you have taken has a copyright.

[MissFM]

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On a serious (downer probably) note - if, like me for example, your living comes partially from royalties from reproduction (cue a CC quip!) it does actually amount to theft if people do it without your permission (and make money out of it without paying you)

[MissFM]

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That;s different - licensing gives a degree of control. I have also sold photographs and they are copyrighted to me. But that is stated as part of a legal contract of publication rights. It does not mean that every photograph you have taken has a copyright.

I hesitate to suggest it:fear:but I think you may be incorrect there ....x

[MissFM]

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Ah - it sn't just me then! I have several (ooops, thinking about it, up the "several") originals, and this was always what I was told - unless you are contracted to copyright, it somehow gets lost. I doubt any of the artists will care that much. I'd love to say I have an eye to value - but the value is only to me! I know what I like! I suppose the reality of the test is that there are very few famous artists alive - the value of their art seems to grow only after death

Well that's a thought! (Bump myself off doh and all financial problems resolved) but I do think you're mistaken...:croc: