(Unfair) dismissal or redundancy?

[labman]

Re: (Unfair) dismissal or redundancy?

I know that I am often blunt and don't do tea and sympathy well.

Practice makes perfect - two sugars and a piece of fruitcake for me please! :behindsofa::behindsofa:

(preferably NOT tipped over my head lol!!!)

[The Debt Star]

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Can I be an honorary member as well, as I've been banned from two sites, each time more than once?

Well on that basis you can chalk up TWO badges

[sassy626]

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Two colleagues resigned yesterday (that I know of) - unable to coope with the "hassle" they are getting over targets. One has new job to go to one does not. Stressed!

[Eloise01]

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Well, being utterly cynical, that's two less employees for you to have to compete with if there are redundancies. But this is where the evidence thing comes in - can you obtain evidence that this was the sole reason for their resignation (which might be hard with the one who has a job to go to, because it obviously wasn't)? I know it sounds cruel, but in this you have to look out for number one, and if people are not willing or able to work collectively to challenge unreasonable demands made on them, then all you can do is collect what evidence you can. Do you have any means of showing that the unreasonable tragets caused their resignations - or can you get it?

[Inca]

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Inca is a paragon of virtue.......member of the 'never been banned' club.....I always leave first

(Oh,,I got barred from a nightclub back in the day for wallopping a fella who had wandering hands and he fell off the balcony!!)

[labman]

Re: (Unfair) dismissal or redundancy?

Inca is a paragon of virtue.......member of the 'never been banned' club.....I always leave first

(Oh,,I got barred from a nightclub back in the day for wallopping a fella who had wandering hands and he fell off the balcony!!)

LOL - that counts! Put it as your signature. Did he survive?

[Inca]

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Oh he survived,,with his male ego in tatters,,he landed on the dancefloor right in front of my brother who glanced up,,saw me,,picked the fella up and said 'You've met your worst nightmare,,now meet her brother' and led him gently by the lughole out of the door lol......I've always had a great righthook,,my Dad did boxing in the army,he taught us well

[sassy626]

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Well, being utterly cynical, that's two less employees for you to have to compete with if there are redundancies. But this is where the evidence thing comes in - can you obtain evidence that this was the sole reason for their resignation (which might be hard with the one who has a job to go to, because it obviously wasn't)? I know it sounds cruel, but in this you have to look out for number one, and if people are not willing or able to work collectively to challenge unreasonable demands made on them, then all you can do is collect what evidence you can. Do you have any means of showing that the unreasonable tragets caused their resignations - or can you get it?

One yes, one no. One is a direct peer albeit in a different location. The other is a specialist to whom I delegate/subcontract certain advice so if things pick up I no longer have that resource and I'm not qualified to do the job myself.

I have an email from the one colleague which states that she quit due to being bored, having had no work for several months and being sick of the constant hassle over the charge-in target. Second colleague is perhaps less likely to say anything in a useful form (staying within the industry).

Had an update call with my new line manager yesterday (my old line manager was transferred while I was on maternity leave). She was supposed to discuss the situation with various people over the course of the last week (leading up to this call) to request some support for (ie work allocation to) our region. She has not had time. I have put a further update call in her diary for next week to see what progress she has made. To be fair she is based in an office hundreds of miles away (my old line manager was more local) and I have never even met the woman so I am hardly going to be top of her priority list. MY targets still have not been set but I guess I can't hide behind that and should be being pro-active about kick starting the process (at least then I get to document my concerns and objections) whereas otherwise they will just kind of be there by default without me having taken/had an opportunity to properly set out my concerns.

[Eloise01]

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Yep that is about it. Get on with what you need to do. The devil takes the hindmost - your job is to make sure that it isn't you!