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  • mystery1
    started a topic Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    The FCA register is https://register.fca.org.uk/

    http://fca-consumer-credit-interim.f...w?accId=472690

    Basic details




    Cabot Financial (UK) Limited
    472690
    Lapsed
    1 Kings Hill Avenue Kings Hill
    West Malling
    Kent ME19 4UA
    1 Kings Hill Avenue Kings Hill
    West Malling
    Kent ME19 4UA
    +441732524600


    Willem Wellinghoff
    wwellinghoff@cabotfinancial.com

    Consumer credit act

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/39/section/40


    40 Enforcement of agreements made by unlicensed trader.


    [F1(1)A regulated agreement is not enforceable against the debtor or hirer by a person acting in the course of a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be) if that person is not licensed to carry on a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be) of a description which covers the enforcement of the agreement.
    (1A)Unless the OFT has made an order under subsection (2) which applies to the agreement, a regulated agreement is not enforceable against the debtor or hirer if—
    (a)it was made by the creditor or owner in the course of a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be); and
    (b)at the time the agreement was made he was not licensed to carry on a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be) of a description which covered the making of the agreement.
    (2)Where—
    (a)during any period a person (the ‘trader’ has made regulated agreements in the course of a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be), and
    (b)during that period he was not licensed to carry on a consumer credit business or a consumer hire business (as the case may be) of a description which covered the making of those agreements,he or his successor in title may apply to the OFT for an order that the agreements are to be treated for the purposes of subsection (1A) as if he had been licensed as required.]
    (3)Unless the [F2OFT] determines to make an order under subsection (2) in accordance with the application, [F3it] shall, before determining the application, by notice—
    (a)inform the applicant, giving [F4its] reasons, that, as the case may be, [F3it] is minded to refuse the application, or to grant it in terms different from those applied for, describing them, and
    (b)invite the applicant to submit to the [F2OFT] representations in support of his application in accordance with section 34.
    (4)In determining whether or not to make an order under subsection (2) in respect of any period the [F2OFT] shall consider, in addition to any other relevant factors—
    (a)how far, if at all, debtors or hirers under [F5the regulated agreements in question] were prejudiced by the trader’s conduct,
    (b)whether or not the [F2OFT] would have been likely to grant a licence covering [F6the making of those agreements during] that period on an application by the trader, and
    (c)the degree of culpability for the failure to [F7be licensed as required] .
    (5)If the [F2OFT] thinks fit, [F8it] may in an order under subsection (2)—
    (a)limit the order to specified agreements, or agreements of a specified description or made at a specified time;
    (b)make the order conditional on the doing of specified acts by the applicant.
    [F9(6)This section [F10(apart from subsection (1))] does not apply to a regulated agreement F11. . . made by a consumer credit EEA firm unless at the time it was made that firm was precluded from entering into it as a result of—
    (a)a consumer credit prohibition imposed under section 203 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000; or
    (b)a restriction imposed on the firm under section 204 of that Act.]
    [F12(7)Subsection (1) does not apply to the enforcement of a regulated agreement by a consumer credit EEA firm unless that firm is precluded from enforcing it as a result of a prohibition or restriction mentioned in subsection (6)(a) or (b).
    (8)This section (apart from subsection (1)) does not apply to a regulated agreement made by a person if by virtue of section 21(2) or (3) he was not required to be licensed to make the agreement.
    (9)Subsection (1) does not apply to the enforcement of a regulated agreement by a person if by virtue of section 21(2) or (3) he is not required to be licensed to enforce the agreement.]

    M1
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  • R0b
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...tors-CPR-31-14

    Might be worth a read, particularly last couple pages.

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  • WineGums
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Hi,

    I also have Cabot Financial (UK) Limited claiming against me at the moment, I sent a letter as above to Restons who are representing them, I've just received the following response :-

    "The fact that the FCA Register shows that the Interim Permission for Cabot Financial (UK) Limited has lapsed will not assist you.

    As is quite usual within the debt purchase industry, the creditor (and the Claimant to these proceedings, Cabot Financial (UK) Limited) appointed Cabot Financial (Europe) Limited service the portfolios of debt as master servicer. Cabot Financial (Europe) Limited has then appointed Cabot Financial (Marlin) Limited as sub-servicer.

    Pursuant to Article 55 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Excemption) Order 2001, Cabot Financial (UK) Limited is exempted from the requirement for authorisation. A similar exemption applies as a result of Article 60(i) of the Regulated Activities Order.

    The FCA Register confirms that the permission for Cabot Financial (Marlin) Limited has not lapsed. In addition, the FCA have expressly accepted our client's position in terms of which entities have applied for permission.

    In the circumstances no criminal offence (whether referred to in your correspondance or otherwise) has been committed either by our client or a member of this firm."

    Any thoughts or comments?

    Thanks,

    WineGums

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  • mystery1
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    The emails also act as a safety net in that you won't be surprised if they pulled out authorisation under another guise (group license) although that is doubtful.

    Don't rely on someone else getting a result because, unless the courts intervene after several emails land on someone who is switched on a la http://nebula.wsimg.com/e3da92cb966c...&alloworigin=1 , they'll plead ignorance in your case.

    M1

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  • MIKE770
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    see where they got their name = Crackpots

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  • mystery1
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    I would send these letters suitably edited. (try email as it's free)


    cabotcustomer@cabotfinancial.com


    Subject :- Court claim xxxxxxx


    Dear Cabot Financial (UK) Limited,

    I am in receipt of court claim xxxxxxxx and note that
    Cabot Financial (UK) Limited are the claimant. I note that upon searching the FCA register that the license for conducting regulated consumer credit activities lapsed on 28/02/15. I would like to draw your attention to S39 of the consumer credit act which makes carrying on activities for which a license is required, without one, a criminal offence.

    Yours Sincerely,






    legalteam@yourfecked.com (the actual details will be on some communication or phone them up to get them, or post with proof of posting)


    Subject :- Court claim xxxxxxx


    Dear Numbnuts,

    In the matter of Cabot Financial (UK) Limited v me Ref #

    I note that your client , the claimant, is Cabot Financial (UK) Limited. I note the claim form has been signed by Idiot1 and as is normal practice is accompanied by a statement of truth.

    I further note that upon a search of the FCA register that the status of the claimants license is LAPSED and it did indeed lapse on 28/02/2015 which i note is before the claim was initiated and the said statement of truth signed by Idiot1. I would like to draw your attention to S39 of the consumer credit act which makes carrying on activities for which a license is required without one a criminal offence. It is also potentially contempt of court on behalf Idiot1 to sign a statement of truth for a court claim on which they cannot have had a reasonable belief in it's truth.

    I would point out that the CCA s40 makes enforcement without a license impossible.

    I await with interest your response.

    Yours Sincerely,




    ccbcdefendants@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk

    Subject :- Court claim xxxxxxx Cabot Financial (UK) Limited v ME


    To the manager of the court.

    Please put this letter before the judge.

    I would like draw to the attention of the court that the claimant is carrying on regulated consumer credit business without a valid license. The FCA register number for Cabot Financial (UK) Limited is472690 and shows as lapsed and also that it lapsed on 28/02/15.

    The consumer credit act 1974 requires a license under section 21. Section 39 makes activities of this nature, without a license, a criminal offence.

    This will obviously be a feature of my defence however due to the large volume of these claims i felt the court should be informed so any investigation deemed necessary, or not, could reduce the burden placed upon the courts.

    Aside from the immediate criminal offence the solicitor has signed a statement of truth and i believe this might constitute contempt of court as they cannot have held an honest believe in the truth of the statement and i would ask that that particular matter be referred to the Attorney General.

    Yours sincerely





    http://www.sra.org.uk/home/contactus.page

    Select - consumer- other and proceed to step 3.


    Subject - Criminal act - Consumer credit - Solicitor aiding

    I would like to inform the SRA that (solicitor named on the claim form, if they signed as e.g. mortimer clarke solicitors just put that) have lodged court papers against me on behalf of Cabot Financial (UK) Limited. I appreciate that doesn't seem like a problem so please bear with me.

    Cabot Financial (UK) Limited is, according to the FCA register for consumer credit, no longer a license holder and has not been since 28/02/2015. Registration number 472690.

    The consumer credit act 1974 requires a license under section 21. Section 39 makes activities of this nature, without a license, a criminal offence.

    Aside from the immediate criminal offence the solicitor has signed a statement of truth and i believe this might constitute contempt of court and have asked the court to refer this to the Attorney General.

    Yours Sincerely



    http://www.fca.org.uk/site-info/contact

    Call them and report the matter of unlicensed trading.


    M1

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  • Endlessnine3
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Shame I still have to pay them

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  • mystery1
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Originally posted by humanbean View Post
    Does this mean I could have a defence based on their not been legally licensed to do business? (a :tinysmile_grin_t:faint glimmering of hope...) humanbean
    No could. You definitely do. The CCA makes it unenforceable and it's also a criminal offence that they are committing.

    M1

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  • FlamingParrot
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Originally posted by humanbean View Post
    Does this mean I could have a defence based on their not been legally licensed to do business? (a :tinysmile_grin_t:faint glimmering of hope...) humanbean
    You may want to look at this post, the letter was sent only Friday or Saturday so we don't know what response (if any) they'll get, but it's worth a shot.

    http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...223#post582223

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  • humanbean
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Does this mean I could have a defence based on their not been legally licensed to do business? (a :tinysmile_grin_t:faint glimmering of hope...) humanbean

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  • FlamingParrot
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    [MENTION=69750]stu82[/MENTION] - the claimant is the unauthorised Cabot Financial (UK) Limited. :grin: See below:

    Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
    Not sure how they can remedy this. It should feature in every defence if it's this version o Cabot that is being dealt with.
    Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
    Clerical error ? On the assignment, various begging letters and on a claim form with a statement of truth ?

    Somebody has seriously messed up and as far as i see this info should be brought to the attention of the claimant, claimants legal team, court, SRA and FCA in every single case.

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  • Stu
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  • FlamingParrot
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
    It says the legal owner is the unlicensed version

    Who is the claimant ?

    M1
    I've asked that question [MENTION=69750]stu82[/MENTION]

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  • mystery1
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Originally posted by FlamingParrot View Post
    How about this letter? It quotes both names: http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...709#post581709
    It says the legal owner is the unlicensed version

    Who is the claimant ?

    M1

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  • FlamingParrot
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    Re: Cabot Financial (uk) limited - Unlicensed trading?

    Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
    @FlamingParrot

    It was more likely to be issued under the CORRECT company name. If it was issued under a version of Cabot that doesn't own it that would also be a big problem as they would have no standing to make a claim.

    One would need to check the notice of assignment or other recent letters to check.
    How about this letter? It quotes both names: http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...709#post581709

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