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  • Car rejection?

    Hi everyone,

    Just hoping to get some advice on a car rejection claim.
    Bought a used Fiat 500X 1.0 Firefly on HP (Northridge Finance) in Feb 2025. Mileage was 34k. I have a stamped service record proving the supplying dealer fully serviced the car right before I picked it up.
    Fast forward 10 months to Dec 2025. At 43k miles (so just 9k miles driven), the engine completely failed. The main dealer diagnosed it as a timing chain failure. Before this, they tried replacing a camshaft sensor which cost £1,000 with parts and labour, but that didn't fix the issue, and the car is still sitting in that garage with an unpaid bill. They are now quoting £2.5k for the chain but admitted to me it's a "speculative" fix.
    I sent a formal rejection to the finance company arguing a timing chain failing at 43k means the car wasn't reasonably durable.

    Northridge are refusing to accept the rejection without an independent inspection proving it's an inherent fault and not maintenance neglect (even though I sent them the service stamp from the point of sale proving it wasn't my fault).
    I have a separate policy with Opteven (covers up to £1k) and this runs out in 2 days. They temporarily refused the initial garage claim because of lack of evidende and want the engine stripped down to prove the root cause before they authorise any payment. This is after the Fiat garage had provided them with a report detailing the causal part and then put the engine back together so they could move the car out the workshop for the time being

    I contacted an independent engineer for a CPR Part 35 report. He quoted £750. He also explicitly told me in an email that the Fiat 1.0 Firefly timing chains are known to fail between 40k and 70k miles, especially if they had patchy service history before I bought it (there was a 16-month gap before my purchase, but again, the dealer serviced it right before handing it to me).

    The kind of catch is the £750 is just for the engineer's time. The main dealer will also charge me labour to strip the engine so the engineer can actually look at it.

    Just hoping if anyone could advise what to do?
    Do I just pay the £750 plus the strip-down labour and add it to my final claim against Northridge?

    Since the engineer has already put in writing that this is a known manufacturing defect occurring at this exact mileage, can I use that to force the finance company to drop the inspection demand or pay for it upfront?

    Any advice on how to handle the main dealer who wants their £1k for the failed sensor repair while I wait for all this to play out?

    Any guidance would be massively appreciated!
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  • #2
    Hi MSP91

    Welcome to LB

    Did you pay a deposit - HP?

    How did you pay the deposit?

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    • #3
      Hi I paid a 5k cash deposit on HP yes

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      • #4
        des8 Can you please take a look.

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        • #5
          According to OPTEVEN's website they require one of their listed repairers to contact them directly with their findings so they can assess a claim before the repair is undertaken.

          Was the FIAT dealership on their list of approved repairers?

          Regarding the outstanding bill, you either pay it or negotiate a delay with the dealer.
          What else did they do besides replacing the sensor .. you mentioned putting " the engine back together" and £1000 just to replace a sensor

          As the vehicle was delivered over 6 months before this problem arose it is for you to prove an inherent fault.
          As far as I can see at the moment you don't have "proof".
          Your main dealer seems to be saying they "think" it is the chain, but they aren't sure if replacing it will fix the problem.
          It may only be the chain tensioner that has given up!

          If you take the rejection to court you will need an engineer's report

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          • #6
            Thanks for your reply , the fiat dealership wasn't on the list of approved repairers but this was after we'd already tried 2 local garages (who were on the approved list) who both had a look and said they were unable to locate the issue. They fitted the cam belt sensor and carried out diagnostics beforehand to clear all of the warning lights that had come on the dashboard.

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            • #7
              £1,000 for a diagnostic and reset & a cam sensor replacement !!!!!!!!! yikes. I know main dealers are expensive but that is taking the p**s. (a more realistic price can be found here, https://www.clickmechanic.com/jobs/c...placement/fiat Note this is not a recommendation or endorsement of this firm).

              The parts to replace the timing chain shouldn't exceed £200, and labour around the £1000 mark so £1500 max. I haven't worked on this particular engine so that is a bit of a guestimate!
              (also it might only be the chain tensioner that has failed!)

              Have you contacted the dealer who supplied the vehicle?
              They might be prepared to repair the vehicle, or at least at a reasonable price

              Bear in mind that if you take this to court it is going to be 6-9months before the matter gets to a hearing, and there is no certainty you will win.
              In your position I would be considering having the work done and then seeking reimbursement from the original dealer/finance house.
              That way you have a vehicle to use and time to draft your claim.

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