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UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

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  • UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

    HI , there all.
    Is it legal for them to have speeding camaras in a plain unmarked van, or do they have to display the markers and tags and bright marking to make it clear to you that you are being observed, and photographed. UNMARKED to me could be construed as ENTRAPMENT , or am i wrong ??

    many thanks jim :tinysmile_aha_t:
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  • #2
    Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

    Have you actually received a NIP because you were caught by such a set up, or have you seen what you thought was a mobile speed camera in a van?
    If the latter you may well have seen a camera checking vehicles for vehicle licence evasion

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    • #3
      Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

      There is no entrapment here.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7322582.stm

      There are no requirements to identify a speed camera either otherwise how would it be legal for an unmarked car to pull you over ?

      M1

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      • #4
        Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

        Actually the visibility rules are rules and a partnership should be removed from the netting off scheme (where they can fund the scheme from the fines) if they break the rules.
        (however non-compliant cameras do not offer any legal defence to a speeding prosecution)

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        • #5
          Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

          Originally posted by jimb43 View Post
          HI , there all.
          Is it legal for them to have speeding camaras in a plain unmarked van, or do they have to display the markers and tags and bright marking to make it clear to you that you are being observed, and photographed. UNMARKED to me could be construed as ENTRAPMENT , or am i wrong ??

          many thanks jim :tinysmile_aha_t:
          It surprises me how many people cry foul we they have broken the law

          I am a van driver (white van) I do speed 34 in 30 zones sometimes.:car:

          But if I get a ticket that’s my own fault.

          You know that you are breaking the law
          you got caught deal with it.
          :incourt:
          Don't let them grind you down

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          • #6
            Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

            hit the nail on the head Vanman.
            A car is as dangerous as a gun if in the wrong hands

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            • #7
              Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

              What if the law says that in order to convict x has to happen and it hasn't happened ? Do you feel the law should only apply when it suits your moral compass ?

              M1

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              • #8
                Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                M1 Who is that aimed at?
                Bit obvious an offence has to occur and the culprit caught before a trial where they may be convicted if its a FPN for speeding the alleged offender can contest it in court .

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                • #9
                  Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                  Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
                  What if the law says that in order to convict x has to happen and it hasn't happened ? Do you feel the law should only apply when it suits your moral compass ?

                  M1
                  That does not mean you are not guilty of the crime now does it
                  Don't let them grind you down

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                  • #10
                    Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                    Originally posted by vanman View Post
                    That does not mean you are not guilty of the crime now does it
                    Really ?

                    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup...method=boolean

                    http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup...method=boolean

                    Smith v Rankin etc etc

                    M1

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                    • #11
                      Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                      Interesting reading had noticed the two events the drivers were unaware they were speeding due to bad signage.
                      but did the OP know that he was speeding
                      Was the OP doing 60 in 20 zone near a playground
                      Don't let them grind you down

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                      • #12
                        Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????





                        M1

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                        • #13
                          Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                          that's OK then kill a kid but not guilty because
                          of a sign not in the right place.
                          Don't let them grind you down

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                          • #14
                            Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                            Originally posted by mystery1 View Post
                            What if the law says that in order to convict x has to happen and it hasn't happened ? Do you feel the law should only apply when it suits your moral compass ?

                            M1

                            ^^^^

                            M1

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                            • #15
                              Re: UNMARKED VAN (SPEEDING) is it legal for them to zap you .????

                              Touché monsieur! :tinysmile_twink_t2:

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