£1450 Speeding Fine - wow

[leaforge]

[mystery1]

Hello

Thanks for all the useful comments.

just to add...
the court was informed of the drivers name and also informed that he was not in the UK - he is now resident in Italy, Nissan Navara was perfectly road worthy, used during day for collecting building materials etc. The company car is owned by a limited company.

I have until 8th Oct to pay it.

Roy

Telling the court was entirely meaningless. It wasn't the court that sent the s172 notice. It was the court that found you guilty of not providing an adequate response within the statutory timeframe of 28 days from service of the s172 request.

M1

[bluebottle]

Agreed, it's got Colonel Blimp's fingerprints all over it!

Getting rid of JPs from the justice system is a subject where solicitors and barristers - and some police officers - share common ground. When JPs are appointed, they are told to leave their personal and political beliefs and prejudices outside the court building. The reality is that many don't and you get ridiculous and, sometimes, disproportionate sentences handed out. I have seen Clerks of the Court shake their heads in disbelief or tell them they can't do what they like, loud enough for everyone in the court to hear. Having prosecuted in front of both JPs and District Judges, I have to say that DJs, being legally-trained, give better justice.

It might pay you to speak to the court's legal team as they would have handled the case papers prior to the date of the hearing and scrutinised them.

[wales01man]

[leaforge]

[ploddertom]

[wales01man]

[leaforge]

[ploddertom]

You have sent a letter to the court. The court has taken this as a not guilty plea. It would appear you didn't go to court. The court had no income/expenditure form on which to base the fine when they found you guilty.

http://www.motoringoffences.com/uplo...lines_2008.pdf

The guidlines for failure to furnish are for a

FINE BAND C
Starting Point: 150% of relevant weekly income
Range: 125% - 175% of relevant weekly income


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...road-user.html


The magistrates obviously didn't believe you gave all the information that was in your power to give.

M1

Spot on I would guess.

[wales01man]

[mystery1]

http://www.motoringoffences.com/uplo...lines_2008.pdf

The guidlines for failure to furnish are for a

FINE BAND C
Starting Point: 150% of relevant weekly income
Range: 125% - 175% of relevant weekly income


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...road-user.html


The magistrates obviously didn't believe you gave all the information that was in your power to give.

M1

[wales01man]

[enquirer]

It also has the hallmarks of JPs and not a District Judge dealing with the case. The fine, costs and victim surcharge are excessive.

Agreed, it's got Colonel Blimp's fingerprints all over it!

[bluebottle]

R -v- South Western Magsitrates (on the application of Purnell), a judicial review, confirms that where a defendant's means have not been examined, a fine cannot be imposed or enforced.

It also has the hallmarks of JPs and not a District Judge dealing with the case. The fine, costs and victim surcharge are excessive.

I agree with what Enquirer says in their post.