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Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

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  • enaid
    started a topic Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

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    The Public Accounts Committee examines whether adults with learning disabilities are getting the support they need to live in the community.


    http://www.parliament.uk/business/co...vidence-16-17/
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  • charitynjw
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by warwick65 View Post
    .......although if you were in education you would get the extra support needed.
    To (badly) paraphrase the late Dame Thora Hird, there was no 'learning difference' in my day; you were sat at the back with raffia.

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  • warwick65
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by pt2537 View Post
    having read your quotes on this thread i really do have to say you show yourself up.

    I have a learning disability, i am dyslexic, i take from no one, i have never claimed any of the benefits id be entitled to now, i work, i earn my keep, and im also a very experienced litigator with various university qualifications. All of which have been achieved despite my illness / disability.

    so, would you class me as taker?
    PT
    Just for reference , the term these days is a learning difference or as they say in education SPLD

    Incidentally, it is unlikely you would get any state benefits if dyslexia was you sole learning difference although if you were in education you would get the extra support needed.

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  • slainte caragh
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    So today I spent a happy day at work with the most amazing people, [MENTION=5553]charitynjw[/MENTION] thank YOU and people like you for allowing me to have this job!

    Whilst the people I work with might not make a monetary contribution to this world, we have a couple who volunteer at charity shops etc.

    And you know what? If all the others were put on this earth to do is smile, they are doing one HELL of a good job!!

    If they don't "make a contribution to society" then I don't want to be part of society!

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  • slainte caragh
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by paws View Post
    stephen hawking
    we...
    Are...
    Not...
    Worthy!!

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  • pt2537
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by Spirit200 View Post
    I thought it was obvious,those are those who contribute, the "givers" rather than the takers
    having read your quotes on this thread i really do have to say you show yourself up.

    I have a learning disability, i am dyslexic, i take from no one, i have never claimed any of the benefits id be entitled to now, i work, i earn my keep, and im also a very experienced litigator with various university qualifications. All of which have been achieved despite my illness / disability.

    so, would you class me as taker?

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  • PAWS
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Thanks guys! xx
    The first Ghosting contract I ever had was to write an auto-biography for a chap who was totally illiterate. He was not diagnosed with autism until he was in prison. He was in prison for one of the most ingenious crimes ever. Now I am not endorsing his crimes but I have to admire this was one very clever chap. Had he not been abused all his life and flung from one institution to another he could have become famous instead of infamous. The problem was there was no support system in place, no benefits if you want me to be clear, to support him until he found his perfect place in life. He might have been the person who found a cure for cancer or solved the world food shortage but ‘society’ did not want to waste their time and money on him as a child and young adult.
    And NO – I am cannot name him for obvious reasons!
    Hey! Nearly wine o’clock! God, I am shallow!

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  • nemesis45
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by PAWS View Post
    By the way, I wish to apologise to my esteemed friends on here who may have been offended by my last post. The wonderful people who give their time and expertise without stinting to help people of all abilities to gain justice and fair play in an increasingly difficult environment
    Hi PAWS,

    No offence at all!!

    Many years ago I had a serviceman with a severe TS problem one of the smartest , intelligent people I have ever met and by heck when he opened up the verbals the foe had no chance!!

    nem

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  • Kati
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by PAWS View Post
    By the way, I wish to apologise to my esteemed friends on here who may have been offended by my last post. The wonderful people who give their time and expertise without stinting to help people of all abilities to gain justice and fair play in an increasingly difficult environment
    no apologies needed here PAWS xx

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  • PAWS
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    By the way, I wish to apologise to my esteemed friends on here who may have been offended by my last post. The wonderful people who give their time and expertise without stinting to help people of all abilities to gain justice and fair play in an increasingly difficult environment

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  • nemesis45
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Not far from where I live there is a centre for " disabled" people of a large spectrum where training in many skills is available some items I've seen any craftsman would be proud of.

    No one ( in my opinion) whatever their percieved disability should be judge by what others think about their worth/contribution or benefit needs.

    nem

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  • Kati
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by PAWS View Post
    I wonder if you are familiar with an old Anglo-Saxon word. Usually followed by the words You or Off.
    How’s that for English?
    how about:
    rutsch mi' d's Buckel runter
    - - - Updated - - -

    or this?:
    kreutz weise!

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  • PAWS
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    I wonder if you are familiar with an old Anglo-Saxon word. Usually followed by the words You or Off.
    How’s that for English?

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  • Kati
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Originally posted by Spirit200 View Post
    In a thread with many contributors, I'm surprised at the sudden lack of responses.

    I'll admit that I was partly playing "devil's advocate" with my contributions but I feel that this has been vindicated by the sudden silence.

    Will the floodgates open?, we'll see.
    so ... what evidence do you need??
    1, that people with Learning Difficulties can lead a 'valid/contributory' life?
    2, that people with Learning Difficulties can be a part of society (instead of a drain)?
    3, that people with Learning Difficulties can be wanted/needed?

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    Originally posted by Spirit200
    Is English your first language?
    I suspect "gibberish" might be!

    I await your replies, in English please!
    I understand EXC completely ... are the 'they' you refer to in a previous post honestly that much LESS than you??

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  • PAWS
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    Re: Do people with learning disabilities get the care they need?

    Silence? Oh dear. Many would be delighted if I were silent. You see sometimes the only way to deal with a silly question is to give a silly answer.
    As mentioned above, ad nauseam, there are many people described as having LD who are not just ‘paying their way’ but really making a difference to other lives and society. There as many people without LD dependant on benefits as those who have been diagnosed.

    Now I have a huge problem with mathematics. I spent school days wonder why the work-shy farmer A cannot plough as quickly as Farmer B. My solution, rather than working out the size of field v the speed of the ploughing would be ‘Get a Holland, Much better than that old Massey Ferguson’. I probably have some form of LD but instead of diagnosis we got a belt of the rosary.
    Hey, I just thought of another good example…. FOREST GUMP! (yea, I know, I know) But you know sometimes you just have to laugh.

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