wages query

[diecastdave]

Hi members

A group of us work for a company contracted to work for a huge company UK owned (world wide) but our company contract is not being renewed and has been given to another company USA (worldwide) Our company ends their contract on March 1st but is only paying us up to 14th February. We were told it's to do with the cut off period/time. So from 14th February we will receive 2 weeks pay which has to last until 14th March.The new contract company is paying us 6 days from 3rd March to 9th March. the payday will be 14th March. That 6 days has to last us to 14th April
Are we all being ripped off of 2 weeks pay?
The manager is being tupe over to the new company. When asked to explain why we are getting only 2 weeks pay from our exiting company, he said that we were paid every month but he paid us extra to make up the difference between 12 monthly payments and 13 monthly payments. Myself and colleagues have checked our wage slips and done our maths, we have have been paid extra at all.
Last year (possibly September) we all did overtime on Sunday at 1.75 hours pay per hour. Our shift is 7.5 hours per day so, we should been paid for 13.125 hours but were paid 10.75paid for When we got our wages we found out that we had been paid 1.5 hours per hour. When the manager was confronted, he said there wasn't enough money in the pot. Where do we stand on both these issues?
I retire in October but want to stay on a couple more years but I'm thinking of retiring in October because of how are being treated.

Your help is appreciated by myself and all my colleagues

[ULA]

Firstly on the overtime seemingly being under paid. Does your contract of employment state that overtime on a Sunday is paid at x1.75 or did he just verbally state this when requesting you did the overtime.

Can you confirm that you are being TUPE'd over to the new company? If so these should be on your existing terms.

When is normal pay date and what is the payment period i.e. paid on last day of the month for the preceding month

[diecastdave]

Hi members

A group of us work for a company contracted to work for a huge company UK owned (world wide) but our company contract is not being renewed and has been given to another company USA (worldwide) Our company ends their contract on March 1st but is only paying us up to 14th February. We were told it's to do with the cut off period/time. So from 14th February we will receive 2 weeks pay which has to last until 14th March.The new contract company is paying us 6 days from 3rd March to 9th March. the payday will be 14th March. That 6 days has to last us to 14th April
Are we all being ripped off of 2 weeks pay?
The manager is being tupe over to the new company. When asked to explain why we are getting only 2 weeks pay from our exiting company, he said that we were paid every month but he paid us extra to make up the difference between 12 monthly payments and 13 monthly payments. Myself and colleagues have checked our wage slips and done our maths, we have have been paid extra at all.
Last year (possibly September) we all did overtime on Sunday at 1.75 hours pay per hour. Our shift is 7.5 hours per day so, we should been paid for 13.125 hours but were paid 10.75paid for When we got our wages we found out that we had been paid 1.5 hours per hour. When the manager was confronted, he said there wasn't enough money in the pot. Where do we stand on both these issues?
I retire in October but want to stay on a couple more years but I'm thinking of retiring in October because of how are being treated.

Your help is appreciated by myself and all my colleagues

I have only been with this company for 16 months. I am retirement age in October. I have never had a contract.
My colleagues say it's in their contract but some say it states double time. We are paid monthly but at the end of each month. We are tupe'd over to the new company. The new company are changing the pay date to the 14th of every month when they take over on March 1st.

[ULA]

Firstly you should have been provided a contract.

Secondly if overtime was set out in employee contracts, then not paying in accordance with that would potentially be a claim for unlawful deduction of wages. However, if this happened back in Sept then you are out of time, as the claim should have been made three months less a day from when this happened.

In regard to the TUPE, where you as part of the consultation process made aware of what are called "measures" which refer to the changes proposed by an employer during a business transfer under TUPE? Change of payroll date should have been one of them, as the date of payment is a term of your employment.

As you are not transferring until 1 March then if you are paid at the end of the month for that month ,then your current employer is responsible to pay you for the full month of Feb up until 28 Feb

For the new company is the payroll date of 14th of each month based on paying an employee 2 weeks in arrears / 2 weeks in advance for that month?

[diecastdave]

Hi Ula

Thank you for your reply and please accept my apologies for not replying sooner. Ev erything is now soted although the new company did try again without success.
I am no longer employed.
In march 2025 the Daughter of the (now new manageress without experience) ordered me to clean a toilet 7 minutes before my shift started. Everytime I refused because it wasn't 14:00 hours but, she started shouting in the office. She is the same as other workers, just a number.
The new manager of the new company asked if I would agree to tear up the grievance and he will deal with it. I let him teat up the grievance but I kept the original and still have it. I don't know if the grievance was dealt with because I wasn't told.

The Daughter's Mother has given me extra work knowing that I wouldn't find time. Cleaning a little landing then became a set of double doors thenb a set of 4 or 5 stairs, walls and door frames.
My clocking off times shown on my phone app proved I was correct.
On or around 15th of June 2025 Tehe manager and I had an arguement. I put a little stone on her desk and said "if you get blood from this stone, I'll give you one thousand quid"
She told me that it takes 90 minutes to clean my area. That is untrue. She told me it takes 90 minutes tops. I asked to come and show me. She then started shouting so I followed. Her Daughter then started shouting calling me "a f*****g liar (referring to the grievance) A colleague pulled me out of the office. She was my best friend but I have been told she's made an allegation along with other staff.
The company HR told me it was "a colleague who witnessed the incident. (I'm guessing the biased Daughter). Further down she says "multiple statements"

I requested those statements but was told "we don't have to give you any statements because it will show the details of those who made the statements" (or words to that effect)
I told her I'm entitled to all evidence with them having been redacted.

I was not given an oppertunity to read refute any allegations that are fabricated.
I was not given an oppertunity to appeal the decision to terminate my empolyment.
The ICO told me to request the statements again after redacttion.
I was also advised to request an answer as to why the company have refused to let me appeal their discliplinary decision.
I don't know if you know anything further that can be added.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks David

[ULA]

diecastdave

Thank you for letting me know that everything is not sorted.

I have responded to the further issue you have set out in the new thread that you have created.