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    Default Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Hi Everyone,

    I was referred here by a friend. Have done some reading on here and Parking Prankster.

    What is the best way of handling?

    Here's a parking eye notice. Hope this is ok picture wise.

    Thanks very much for any help and advice you can offer on how to proceed please.

    J

    Edited thanks to mystery and ostell
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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Is that it ? Nothing between the photos and payment information section ?

    Should look similar to this ?



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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Did the other side of the notice mention anything about the Protection of Freedom Act (POFA)? When was the alleged contravention and when did you receive the notice? If there was no notice on the windscreen then it has to be received within 14 days tobe able to hold the keeper liable.

    It looks like a PE non POFA compliant one so that they can't make the keeper liable, the driver retains the liability and so if they don't know who the driver was then they are up the creek without a paddle. So edit your first post so that the identity of the driver cannot be inferred.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Thank you both.

    Yes - no info at all like in the one Mystery posted.

    A worry for me is i am abroad - if it went to court I would be penalised for not turning up, Correct?

    regarding the back - i will find out - i believe it was within 14 days however yes.

    How should I proceed based on what you see and assuming it was received in 14 days.

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    Yes - no info at all like in the one Mystery posted.
    Good for you but very unusual. If they have screwed up keeper liability as it would seem http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...ket-on-vehicle

    A worry for me is i am abroad - if it went to court I would be penalised for not turning up, Correct?
    If we are still in time to appeal, this should not get anywhere near a court.

    You can, if it does go to court, request a hearing on written submissions without penalty. (common sense would tell you that this hinders your chances though)

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    Yes, few days left to appeal I believe.

    Read and noted regarding link ^

    Thank you

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Must ask. Are you permanently abroad ie domiciled or just a very temporary stay. Thinking about jurisdiction of English court.

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    I have a 2 year working holiday visa for new zealand (have been in NZ about 1 year and 3 months.) - i will be applying for residency in the future.

    Have requested a copy of the back of the notice as per your request regarding POFA.

    Thank you again, I hope you had an awesome Sunday.

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    So even if it got to court then you are out of the jurisdiction of the court,

    I would think email PE and give them your new address. Also point out that they have failed to comply with the requirements of POFA to hold you liable, go chase the driver.

    A combination of those 2 should make them realise they are wasting money chasing it.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Thank you Ostell.

    No notice of POFA on the back of the form.

    I will follow your instructions.

    Just to confirm - email them - rather than go to 'appeal' section on the PE website? (where they send you to pay the fine there is an appeal section).

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    Add it to the appeal.


    Further i would like to bring to your attention my current address xxxxx which is where i have stayed for x months and would like communications sent to.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Understood, thank you.

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    Hi, Sorry to be a bore - here is the notice I was going to forward to parking eye. I know the wordage used is important in these matters so just wanted to check it was ok to send and I hadn't messed up anywhere.

    "Dear Parking Eye,

    Please find my appeal of parking notice xxxx dated xxx.

    You have failed to comply with the requirements of POFA. Please contact the driver.

    Further I would like to bring to your attention my current address xxxxx. I have stayed here for 17 months. I would like all communications sent to this address.

    Regards."

    Thanks again.

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    Dear Parking Eye,

    Re: parking notice xxxx dated xxx.

    My address for future communications is xxxxx.

    You have failed to comply with the requirements of POFA to be able hold me, the keeper liable. Please contact the driver.

    I do not expect to hear from you again.


    Lets not be too polite to them.

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    As long as you convey the correct message that you want to achieve and don't identify the driver it's all good. Looks fine to me.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    Hi everyone. They sent me a letter! To NZ! Here it is...

    (parking eye NZ letter)

    I have also uploaded a copy of the back of the original letter (parking eye back crop), I was misinformed when I was told there was nothing on the back.

    Thanks, hope you guys are all doing well and fighting hard!
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    I'd just ignore it and see if a popla code turns up.

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    Thank you. Will do.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    The POPLA letter arrived!

    It's a lot of pages, so I just uploaded a few. I go to POPLA and appeal now yes?

    What 'evidence' do I upload, in terms of, what actually 'is' my defense.

    Thank you!
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    Hey, ok I have been doing a lot of reading and have decided I will send a full appeal based on one of Mystery1's previous posts and edit based on the particular case.

    My only question is if it IS possible to get hold of a receipt / proof of purchase from the business in question, should I do this and submit it to POPLA as well?

    Thanks, appreciate any help you can give.

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    Default Re: Parking Eye Penalty Notice from Car Park

    POPLA, to my best knowledge, do not 'do' mitigating circumstances or similar.
    On occasion they may refer the mitigation(s) back to the operator (parking co), but it would be up to the operator whether or not to entertain such representations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by da_mill View Post
    Hey, ok I have been doing a lot of reading and have decided I will send a full appeal based on one of Mystery1's previous posts and edit based on the particular case.

    My only question is if it IS possible to get hold of a receipt / proof of purchase from the business in question, should I do this and submit it to POPLA as well?

    Thanks, appreciate any help you can give.
    Probably not.

    Post up your appeal and i'll take a look. Very busy this week but you do get 28 days so should have time. Make sure you tag me so i don't miss it (not being around much now)


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    Hi Mystery,

    just went to formulate my response - their letter says you get 28 days to appeal to Popla. PE letter is dated 20 June - The 28 days has already expired, I'm not sure I couldve done anything at all by the time I actually received the letter. Any recourse on this or am I screwed?

    I wa thinking I would appeal to popla and say exactly that (I received the letter too late being being overseas which is clearly an unfair practice.)

    thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by mystery1 View Post
    Probably not.

    Post up your appeal and i'll take a look. Very busy this week but you do get 28 days so should have time. Make sure you tag me so i don't miss it (not being around much now)


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    Here's a link to a POPLA code checker. Not unknown to issue one that was "issued" several days before the letter date. If it is seriously out of date then complain to PE and ask for another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostell View Post
    Here's a link to a POPLA code checker. Not unknown to issue one that was "issued" several days before the letter date. If it is seriously out of date then complain to PE and ask for another.
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