Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 35

Thread: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

  • Share
  • Thread Tools
  • Display
  1. #1
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi all, first post....please be gentle. So, in October last year my wife received a parking notice from premier park. She appealed straight away, as it was me driving.
    i parked for 11 minutes in a car park that offered 30 mins free. I didn't realise that I had to register the car first.
    so she appealed and she didn't hear anything, the next thing we heard was another bill from them for £100. This time she filled in the form which identified me as the driver.
    We then heard from a Debt Collector asking for £150 or they would advise their client to take her to court. So, I dug around a few posts on here and I wrote a letter on her behalf and sent a cheque (from a friend) for £10 as a 'Without prejudice payment'. I said that this was because the £150 was not a genuine estimation of loss and the sign advertised first 30 mins free.
    Today we have received a further letter from the debt collectors thanking us for our correspondence. But saying if we don't pay by 4 April they will reccomend their clients take us to court.
    So, have I messed up by sending that letter? All advice greatly received.

  2. #2
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Did they not supply a popla code when rejecting the initial appeal ?

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  3. #3
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Nothing, we didn't hear anything at all from them. When I called the debt collectors they said an appeal had never been received.

  4. #4
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    How did you appeal (sounds like you posted without proof of posting ?)


    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  5. #5
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Did it on their website as directed.

  6. #6
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    I'd be asking PP themselves. If you know when or have logs to back you up, even better.

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  7. #7
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi, I'm sorry to sound pathetic, I dint gave anything. I've tried searching my history but I can't go back that far. They have said they won't enter into any further conversation with us.

  8. #8
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Didn't think you would to be honest.

    If Premier won't help then i'd ignore them unless they send aletter before claim or court papers.

    They don't do a lot of court but ..... http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Premier_Park.html

    2 other things you could try,

    1. Ask your ISP.

    2. Send a subject access request to Premier Park and see what turns up.

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  9. #9
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi,
    thank you so much for this. What's a subject access request?

  10. #10
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  11. #11
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Again, thank you so much for all if the help so far. If I choose to ignore further comms from them what is likely to be their next step?

  12. #12
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Send more bogroll.

    They are stepping up court claims but are still only doing 1/2 so you'd need to be very unlucky to get one.

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  13. #13
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Thanks, I feel really strongly about this and although I could probably afford the £150 it's a matter of principle now. If they took me to court would I be able to defend it myself or could I end up having to pay a lot more in court costs if I lost?

  14. #14
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Yes you could.

    The most, aside from unreasonable behaviour, that it would cost is £200 or so if you lost.
    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  15. #15
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    I might come back to you then............

  16. #16
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi,
    further developments even this morning.
    We have received a letter from Premier Park saying they can no longer deal with our case as it is being dealt with by our debt collection agency. They returned our check and enclosed 'copies of schedule 4'.

    These appear to be 2 emails, which we have never received, one acknowledging receipt of an online appeal and one from them refusing the appeal. As I said we have never received either of these emails. Indeed, they only recently told us that they had never received an appeal from us.

    Im sorry to sound a bit pathetic but I really don't know what to do now.

  17. #17
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Did the emails have your email address correct and did the refusal contain a popla code ?

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  18. #18
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Hi,
    yes there is a code. There is no email address, just my wife's name. We have gone through all our email accounts. There is nothing. Would it be worth me offering a without prejudice payment to the debt collectors?

  19. #19
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Doubt it.

    I would ask which email address they used though, to see if you can find out the issue or catch a lie.

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  20. #20
    ostell's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    2,279
    Mentions
    127 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    If the registered keeper is still getting hassle then write back to them suggesting that they take a good look at paragraph 5 (1) (b)

    5
    (1)
    The first condition is that the creditor—
    (a)
    has the right to enforce against the driver of the vehicle the requirement to pay the unpaid parking charges; but
    b)
    is unable to take steps to enforce that requirement against the driver because the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver.

    They have been given a driver name and address already so don't repeat it.

  21. #21
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ostell View Post
    If the registered keeper is still getting hassle then write back to them suggesting that they take a good look at paragraph 5 (1) (b)

    5
    (1)
    The first condition is that the creditor—
    (a)
    has the right to enforce against the driver of the vehicle the requirement to pay the unpaid parking charges; but
    b)
    is unable to take steps to enforce that requirement against the driver because the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver.

    They have been given a driver name and address already so don't repeat it.
    Has the husband been named with a serviceable address ? (i hope not since premier park notices to keeper are non compliant)

    If so it will be a good defence in any future court case however i don't see where that is said ?

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  22. #22
    ostell's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    2,279
    Mentions
    127 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    The OP said that the driver had been named, in the first post. I had to look 3 times before I saw it again.

  23. #23
    mystery1's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    10,914
    Mentions
    812 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ostell View Post
    The OP said that the driver had been named, in the first post. I had to look 3 times before I saw it again.
    Yes but they need to be supplied with "both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver."

    They probably were but if you get a letter from Mrs Smith with her address on the top of the letter and all it says is Mr Smith was driving then there is a possibility that this is not enough.

    M1
    ********************************Signature********* ************************

    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.

    Please note i am now pretty much without access/time to help 5 days a week. Others will hopefully help you.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

  24. #24
    ostell's Avatar

    VIP Member



    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    2,279
    Mentions
    127 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    But it could also be the parking company saying that the name has not been supplied within 28 days, which, of course is incorrect.

  25. #25
    steelrider's Avatar

    Junior Member



    Joined
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    15
    Mentions
    0 Post(s)

    Default Re: Premier Park.....have I messed up?

    We filled their form in naming me as the driver. So, folks what do I do?
    Pay?
    Ignore?
    Offer the debt collectors a without prejudice payment?

    Bit worried now TBH

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Station Rd Car park Royal Wootton Bassett - Premier Park Ltd
    By My Name is ........ in forum PPC's - Parking Charge Notices
    Replies: 12
    : 22nd November 2016, 19:37:PM
  2. Premier Park - Private car park
    By Jam_33 in forum British Parking Association
    Replies: 6
    : 19th February 2016, 06:01:AM
  3. Premier Park - Private car park
    By Jam_33 in forum PPC's - Parking Charge Notices
    Replies: 4
    : 12th February 2016, 10:11:AM
  4. Premier park - WON
    By kms1987 in forum Parking - Settled / Successful Cases
    Replies: 7
    : 12th February 2015, 08:48:AM
  5. Premier park
    By kms1987 in forum POPLA
    Replies: 7
    : 12th February 2015, 08:48:AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Contact Us



© Celame (UK) Ltd 2016
Hosted by Lodge Information Services Ltd
LegalBeagles® are DPA Registered No. ZA158014
LegalBeagles® is the trading name of CELAME (UK) LIMITED ( 09220332 )
Registered Address: 25 Moorgate, London, England, EC2R 6AY
VAT registration number 206 9740 02
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.3 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Celame (UK) Ltd Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3
Copyright © 2017 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.

To find out more about managing your money and getting free advice, visit the Money Advice Service,an independent service set up to help people manage their money.

TOP