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    Default Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Hi Guys,

    I wonder if you can help me. My wife was issued with a PCN by Civil Enforcement Ltd. in relation to an over-stay in a car park in Birmingham (King's Heath Retail Park, Findlay Road, Birmingham, B14 7SN). The incident in question occurred on 19th November 2016.

    We have just received a "Letter Before Action" letter from Civil Enforcement Ltd. and, just to confirm, we have not acknowledged this PCN in any way, shape or form. Nor have we formally appealed this PCN via POPLA. Note that the "Letter Before Action" we have just received includes a Press Summary regarding two court cases - "Cavendish Square Holdings BV (Appellant) v Talal El Makdessi and ParkingEye Limited (Respondent) v Beavis (Appellant)"

    Now, my understanding is that PCNs issued by organisations that are not a local council or the police are not legally enforceable. Is this still correct?

    I myself was issued a PCN by Civil Enforcement Ltd. a couple of years ago and successfully appealed the PCN via the POPLA route (with some help from Legal Beagles )

    If I were to post pictures of the letter we have been sent, would anyone have any templates that we could use to successfully appeal against this PCN?

    Many thanks in advance,

    Bopper

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    They are enforceable if the parking company care to take them to court. Things chaged with the introduction of POFA in October 2012.

    The court cases mentioned are used as frighteners and most probably will not apply to your situation. A copy of the original PCNs would be helpful. With identifying details removed.

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Post up the claim form after sanitising it.

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Quote Originally Posted by mystery1 View Post
    Post up the claim form after sanitising it.

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    Guys,

    Here is the chaser, but I'm afraid my wife has already thrown the original PCN itself in the bin!

    Any help you could provide would be most appreciated!

    Many thanks,

    Bopper
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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Is your wife the registered keeper ?

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Quote Originally Posted by mystery1 View Post
    Is your wife the registered keeper ?

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    Yes, my wife is the registered keeper of the vehicle.

    Many thanks,

    Bopper

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Dear Civil Enforcement,

    I am in receipt of your draft particulars of claim and letter before action.

    In order to respond, and to comply with the pre action protocols and CPR, please answer the following questions :-

    1. Are you chasing myself as the registered keeper ?

    2. How are the extra charges made up ?


    Please also furnish me with a copy of your PCN and signs at the site.

    Once you supply the requested information i will reply in full.

    Yours etc

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    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

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    Default Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd. PCN - Assistance Requested!

    Thanks!

    Will send this letter off and let you know what I receive back.

    Many thanks,

    Bopper

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