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    Default PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    Shwmae pawb - Alright all?

    I've had a look around since receiving a PCN from Premier Park, issued on 29/12/16 after the driver breached their 3-hour limit by a mere 21 minutes. The driver went to see Rogue One in the Odeon cinema on site and, including adverts and walking time to/from car, took them slightly over the 3 hour stay - 17/12/16. Good film, by the way.

    As per their common practice, they've given me the PCN with £60 now or £100 later spiel, photos of the driver's car with close-up's of registration number (though one of them looks to be computer generated - the numberplate bolt covers are white (as is true to life) in one and black (not featured on either front or back of car) on the other. Both close-up's are, of course, hazy but one looks particularly incorrect. The photos of the actual car are relatively well resolved, however.

    I will look to get a photo of the 'terms' signage on the way into the car park, though haven't done that as yet.

    I can supply photos of the PCN to whomever may wish to see them and will try and have copies omitting personal information for when/if they're required. If someone could point me in the direction of which information is best omitted, that would be worthwhile. I'd imagine number plates, reference number, name and address should be omitted.

    There were ample parking spaces available and the driver didn't impede anyone's stay by staying over the 3-hour limit so as to provide their custom to local business.

    I believe my options would be along the lines of:

    - appeal to Premier Park LTD.
    - wait for appeal to be rejected, hoping it'll be accepted, while the driver/customer tries to contact the landowner.
    - obtain POPLA number and launch appeal against Premier Park LTD there.

    I'll try and obtain a receipt or similar for the film - the driver's parents kindly paid for these.

    Thanks in advance you knowledgeable people!

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    Default Re: PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    Croeso i LB

    templates here http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...land-and-Wales

    Pob lwc

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    Diolch yn fawr des8.

    I'll get that off to them first of play tomorrow and see what they come back with.

    All the best.

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    Default Re: PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    Helo eto pawb - Hello again all.

    The response I've had from Premier park after following the template and requesting a POPLA code is as follows;

    "Dear Mr ,

    Re: Parking Charge Notice xxxxxx

    We write to acknowledge receipt of your recent online appeal, on behalf of the driver, appealing against the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to the vehicle.

    We note your comments and must refer you to the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012, Schedule 4 - Recovery of unpaid Parking Charges. This is available to view online at:
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4

    We must therefore request that the details of the driver of the vehicle at the time of the contravention are supplied; this must include their full name and serviceable UK postal address. If you are unwilling or unable to provide these details the registered keeper of this vehicle will remain liable for this PCN. This information should be provided by 2nd February 2017. Please note, Premier Park Limited will not reply to any correspondence until after the above date, if the requested information is not provided.

    If we do not receive this information by the date given, the registered keeper of the vehicle at the date of event will be held liable.

    If you would like to view our photographic evidence, please visitwww.pcnpayments.com

    Please respond by return or by filling in the Transfer of Liability form on the reverse of the PCN and posting it to Premier Park, PO Box 624, Exeter, EX1 9JG.


    Yours Sincerely,

    The Appeals Team
    Premier Park Ltd"

    From what I've read previously, they should provide a POPLA code upon request? Does failing to do so mean that they're in breach of a legislation or similar?

    Cheers!
    Last edited by Benz3ne; 11th January 2017 at 10:17:AM. Reason: Picture of signature broken.

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    Default Re: PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    Bore da.

    They haven't yet declined to give a POPLA code.
    They have "requested" the drivers's name and address (which you decline to give) and will not be responding to any correspondence until after 02/02/2017

    Have you approached the manager of the cinema concerned about getting this ticket cancelled.
    After all, if a 3 hour parking slot isn't sufficient, neither you nor your mates will be going to his cinema again,will you?

    For the sake of our parking guru @mystery1
    Upload images to your thread
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    She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as he is aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it ! Do sanitise them as mentioed in your earlier post.

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    Default Re: PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    Apologies for garbled text in above post.
    This was a copy and paste that went wrong and my edit button couldn't correct and couldn't even delete it!

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    I'll see whether I can find contact details for the cinema owner and the land owner. The land owner I think is distinct from the cinema owner as the car park is for a number of businesses.

    On a slight tangent, my father also received a PCN for overstaying - I met him there, watched the same film and left at the same time. Our reference numbers are one digit apart.

    No need to apologise for garbled text, I understood the relevant text!

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    Default Re: PCN at 3-hour free site - Premier Park

    You can either wait or speed things along by emailing back

    Dear Tw@t,

    I am under no legal obligation to name the driver. Go forth and multiply.

    Yours sincerely

    Not as stupid as you think i am.

    M1
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    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

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    Mystery, that is something spectacular!

    I think I'll bide my time on the matter. In the meantime I've managed to get details of the person responsible for oversight of the private land so I may get in touch with her and see whether she can cancel the ticket(s).

    That being said, it is tempting to send the above...

    Edit: To ask a silly question, I'm now waiting for Feb 2nd so they can issue me a POPLA code, correct?

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    Yes and no. They can issue it at any time and that's what you are waiting for. If they choose to wait until 2nd then so be it.

    M1
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    Private messages are off as all help on this site is on board.


    I can only help with what you tell me. Post up information (other than names and addresses!).

    I NEVER enter any appeals or court documentation on your behalf. This is your responsibility.

    Upload images to your thread like this .Email kati@legalbeagles.info if you can't upload images/documents. She doesn't own a crystal ball as far as i'm aware so link to your thread or tell her how to find it !

    If you want to tell someone YOU were driving, go to confession.

    I,I,I,I,I,I should be avoided unless you are Jim Diamond.

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