Abandoning a newborn in a 'baby hatch' as a foundling

[Kati]

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If my book ever gets published, I'll take you all out for drinks, regardless of whether it sells or not! I'd better bookmark this page now so I find you guys back when the glorious moment arrives.

I still want to read a final draft :tinysmile_twink_t2:

[Johnboy007]

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Thank you all for your great responses and ideas, especially, if I may, Celestine. I agree it seems unlikely the UK police would pursue such a case, if if it were against UK law.
One other scenario for those who are still interested: the father (UK national) has strong-armed the mother to travel to Germany, give birth there to the child and subsequently abandon it there in a baby hatch. We're 20 years later. The mother has passed away and father is still alive. The story about the abandoned baby comes to light and can be proved with a DNA test. What cannot be proved is whether the father really coerced the mother or not, however it's 'proven' that he was aware of it and assisted her in the act. Could he be prosecuted?
Again, personally my guess is we're arriving back at Celestine's response, where it's unlikely for the UK police to take interest in this. However, any thoughts or info is very welcome.
Thank you all!
C.P.

Well as the foetus has no legal rights in UK law, Father and Mother have not committed any offence according to the law.
Now if the father kept the Baby and abandoned the Mother, then you really would have a story..........msl:

[Carl Philip]

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I still want to read a final draft :tinysmile_twink_t2:

I will rather try and sell you a copy

[Johnboy007]

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As a footnote.....
It just shows what a contentious subject Carl is writing about.
How he is going to get around the lack of legal issues regarding the foetus will be very interesting reading.
But I wish him success and also thanks for his original post, which has attracted many views and comments.

[Johnboy007]

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I will rather try and sell you a copy

A man after my own heart.......aw:

[Kati]

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Now if the father kept the Baby and abandoned the Mother, then you really would have a story..........msl:

sounds like a plan to me Johnboy :tinysmile_twink_t2:

[Kati]

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I will rather try and sell you a copy

do I get a signed copy??

and a bonus if I persuade other people to buy ???

[Johnboy007]

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sounds like a plan to me Johnboy :tinysmile_twink_t2:

Well I just thought that a twist to the plot would be great.
Mother goes to Germany, has baby in baby hatchery.
Dad comes along, snatches baby, and leaves mother for eight weeks, hoping someone will adopt her.
Mother returns to the UK, finds father has moved, so hires a private detective to track him down and take him to the cleaners, for alimony, house and everything else he owns.

[Carl Philip]

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As a footnote.....
It just shows what a contentious subject Carl is writing about.
How he is going to get around the lack of legal issues regarding the foetus will be very interesting reading.
But I wish him success and also thanks for his original post, which has attracted many views and comments.

JB,

Thank you for thanking me but it is me who has to thank all of you...
To provide a little more background: at the moment it's going to be a short story which will make it easier to get past the legal issues. The abandoned baby in question is a child that was diagnosed with Down syndrome, weeks before it was born, which was the reason why the father coerced the mother into abandoning it. The story focuses on the moral implications of his decision on himself, his other children, the baby with Down syndrome who has grown up in Germany to become a young man, and others. However, I still need some measure of legal repercussions against the father for the story to work, but you all have given me some new ideas and am eternally thankful for that (deep bow).
Cheers,
C.P.

[Carl Philip]

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do I get a signed copy??

and a bonus if I persuade other people to buy ???

Signed and thumbprinted if you like, and a generous 25% commission on each copy you manage to flog to the unsuspecting reader!

[Kati]

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Signed and thumbprinted if you like, and a generous 25% commission on each copy you manage to flog to the unsuspecting reader!

hahaha sounds good to me

[Johnboy007]

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JB,

Thank you for thanking me but it is me who has to thank all of you...
To provide a little more background: at the moment it's going to be a short story which will make it easier to get past the legal issues. The abandoned baby in question is a child that was diagnosed with Down syndrome, weeks before it was born, which was the reason why the father coerced the mother into abandoning it. The story focuses on the moral implications of his decision on himself, his other children, the baby with Down syndrome who has grown up in Germany to become a young man, and others. However, I still need some measure of legal repercussions against the father for the story to work, but you all have given me some new ideas and am eternally thankful for that (deep bow).
Cheers,
C.P.

Maybe Carl, you could add something sinister, that he could use to blackmail his partner into going to Germany and abandoning the baby.
On returning to the UK, she is so overcome with guilt, that she confesses all to the police.
He gets arrested and sent to prison for blackmail, and the, now young man, is tracked down to an institution, and is reunited with his biological mother.
This is such a good story line I might even buy a copy myself, or download it from Piratebay for free........:tinysmile_twink_t2:

[PAWS]

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Phew!So glad you revealed your reason for posting this question. I was reading away and my trigger finger was ‘mighty itchy’!!!
Sounds like a cracking story line. Good luck with it.:okay:

[Crazy council]

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If it does ever become legal to abandon your kids, and time machines become viable....

.... All am saying kids,, ,,.. i loved you but.......

On a more serious note.... these situations have desaterios consequences on the kids when they start reaching there teens. and as a parent, you can face a terrible time of your kids hearts hopeing for the best, knowing that what they find out is going to destroy them for a while. Especially if it was the mother that abandoned them.

The difficulty as a parent, is how old does the child need to be to have the true circumstances explained to them,

[PAWS]

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Isit not fairer to tell a child his mother gave him up for adoption then to use the word ‘abandoned’?