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  • Civil Enforcement Ltd

    Hi,

    I've got another CE Ltd enquiry. Not as straightforward as some however.

    I won't bore you with the full details yet because I could easily be wrong and would therefore be embarrassed!

    Can you tell me if companies like CE Ltd have an obligation to tell you on whose land you were parked on when they issue a PCN? I was parked in a car park but was given a road name only. There could easily have been multiple places to park on said road for all I know.

    I received my PCN via post following a holiday. My memory of where I was parked was a little hazy as it was a week later and I had been a tourist in an unfamiliar town. I had no recollection of parking anywhere wrong or for anything like the time indicated on the PCN (4.5 hrs). I checked CE out online, including this site and was duly concerned by their reputation!

    Following this I wrote to CE asking for evidence but also wanting to know whose land it was so I could confirm in my own mind that I could have been parked where they alleged. When they replied I was still not told. I wasn't particularly happy with the "evidence" (dodgy looking ANPR data) either but that's another matter. I ultimately appealed via POPLA and lost. CE provided the details of the landowner at appeal of course.

    Now I have a demand for £90 rather than £45 because of the time that has elapsed, basically because I chose to appeal. My only hope is that CE ought to have provided the information requested prior to appeal in which case I would probably not have wasted my time with the appeal at all.

    Thanks

    John
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    Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd

    If they are pursuing you as the registered keeper then yes they do. If they are chasing you as driver then no they don't.

    It seems you wasted your popla appeal as had you refuted that the loss was a genuine pre estimate of loss you'd have won.

    Cel do do court but the actual trials aren't proceeded to all that often as they don't want to lose.

    M1

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    • #3
      Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd

      Thanks M1. I don't understand the ..genuine pre estimate of loss... grounds but get your message. Seems unfair to me that I should have to pay a parking fine without being explicitly told where my car was parked or have any photo evidence. It's all done on the trusting assumption that CE are honest and upright and that the ANPR works and I should just take their word that there was adequate signage etc.

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      • #4
        Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd

        I wouldn't pay them anyway but you have to understand you might have to defend a court claim if you choose that route.

        M1

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