disaplinary hearing

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

I cannot see it as fair to bring up issues from November which the employer knew about and did nothing about at the time.

[david1978]

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Thats what I was thinking and I will bring this up in my defence

Does the acas code of practice apply in north ireland?

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

It does - but it doesn't have a lot of clout anywhere! It is guidance only.

[david1978]

Re: disaplinary hearing

Think ill give the father in law a bell again to go throuh this with him it would be ideal if he was able to come with me tomorrow problem is he lives in Kent so thats that

Ill keep posted on the outcome maybe ill be looking for a new job after tomorrow

Thanks for your time

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

I can't guarantee this, but I think it would be unlikely there is sufficient here to justify a dismissal. Although that doesn't mean it couldn't be - but it is likley to be less. You should ask for it to be postponed to get your union rep in.

[teaboy2]

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On the face of thing's am inclined to agree with Eloise.

Though i do have one small question - You say the your employers own both the hotel and the two care homes, what i'd like to know is whether the 2 care homes are under the same registered company name as the hotel is, or not? As your employed by the company that owns the Hotel not the company directors. So if the Hotels company directors own the 2 care homes but under a different company name to that of the Hotel, then that will change things quite a bit.

[david1978]

Re: disaplinary hearing

No the hotel is under a different name as to the 2 care homes what can be said about that?

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

No the hotel is under a different name as to the 2 care homes what can be said about that?

That's a very good question and I am looking forward to the answer.

In the meantime, I'd rely on your defence (and your union) being the thing that saves your bacon. It's your employers who are disciplining you for alleged conduct carried out during your employment for them - the fact that you may have been "loaned" across companies within the group does not change that fact.

[david1978]

Re: disaplinary hearing

Well the meeting is postponed to give me time to get a union rep in

They kinda got a bit agitated when I asked for the company employment hand book

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

Probably more flustered by the union rep! They don't actually need an "employment hand book" or policies providing they adhere, as a minimum, to the law. Which really isn't all that hard because it isn't really a high standard.

[david1978]

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Yea he was a bit shocked by I said union rep it was the GM of the hotel who was doing it who is only in the job since xmas

To be honest whatever the outcome of this I think its time to look for another job

[Eloise01]

Re: disaplinary hearing

Well that is possibly the case - but you won't have one by the time of the hearing (or you are a lucky person if you do) and this might all still be a storm in a teacup.