Help with Rossendales???

[yiddo1985]

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I received this in my door today because I have defaulted on my payment plan because I have had my hours reduced by 50% at work and just couldn't afford to keep paying. I rang them and explained but they weren't interested. Does anyone know what I can do when they come back?

Any help is appreciated.

Mike

[Inca]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

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[bluebottle]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Firstly, could you advise us what the debt is for, please? Secondly, Rossendales holds an OFT Debt Collection Licence and one of its conditions is that they must not force debtors to pay more than they can realistically afford. Thirdly, how much could you realistically afford towards paying off the debt on a weekly or monthly basis?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Could you post or attach a larger image?

Have the buggers ever levied distress on your goods and chattels? If they have, what items were listed and, if those items were inside the house, did you let the oaf in?

[ploddertom]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

You will need various pieces of information in order to move forward. You need to speak to someone at the Council and ask the following questions:
1 - how many Liability Orders they have against you
2 - the dates they were obtained
3 - the addresses they were for
4 - the period of time each covers
5 - how much each one was for
6 - how much is still outstanding
7 - the dates they were passed on for enforcement
8 - the dates & amounts of any payments

You also need to have a read of http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...67-Council-Tax and send off for a breakdown of the fees they are trying to claim using Letter 1 from http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...Useful-Letters

The Regulations for Council Tax tell you what they are allowed to charge you. Just remember one thing - Bailiffs Lie

[labman]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Here is what they're allowed to charge (also mentioned in the link above):

[yiddo1985]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Hi guys,

Thanks for the replys. I just spoke to Ms Brown the Bailiff in charge on the phone and explained I could not pay the fee she was demanding and she told me to ring her back on Monday and give her a time she could come to my property and collect the money. Silly cow.

She told me if I don't pay, there's a good chance I could be sent to Prison.

I have never let anyone into my property, and just explained to her that would not change, that's when she started talking about Prison.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

What is the alleged debt for?

Has anything been levied upon?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

She told me if I don't pay, there's a good chance I could be sent to Prison.

I have never let anyone into my property, and just explained to her that would not change, that's when she started talking about Prison.

Bailiffs tell lies.

[yiddo1985]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Hi Clogs.

It's council tax. Nothing has been levied up. Said she's going to come back next week and hung up on me. I don't know what she's coming back for?

Tea, maybe?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Perhaps she wants to collect your doorstep?

More likely, she'd try the "Threshold Manoeuvre", whereby she'd rest her foot against your door and then hammer on it until you opened it; her weight would do the rest and she'd - literally - have her foot in your doorway. Bailiffs falsely claim this as "peaceful entry".

[bluebottle]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Perhaps she wants to collect your doorstep?

More likely, she'd try the "Threshold Manoeuvre", whereby she'd rest her foot against your door and then hammer on it until you opened it; her weight would do the rest and she'd - literally - have her foot in your doorway. Bailiffs falsely claim this as "peaceful entry".

Rai and Rai -v- Birmingham City Council [1993] is one of the cases that knocked this on the head and put bailiffs on notice they couldn't use the "Threshold Manoeuvre" to claim "peaceable entry". Likewise, tricking their way in, e.g. by claiming they need to use the phone/toilet, gas themselves, is not "peaceable entry". I would like to see a bailiff try and talk their way out of a charge of Burglary Artifice (aka Distraction Burglary) as the word "artifice", translated into Modern English, means "clever trickery". Chances of getting an idiot bailiff arrested and prosecuted are, at present, slim, but there's no harm in making the bailiff think they can. You won't be telling porkies either, unlike the bailiff.

[gravytrain]

Re: Help with Rossendales???

Rai and Rai -v- Birmingham City Council [1993] is one of the cases that knocked this on the head and put bailiffs on notice they couldn't use the "Threshold Manoeuvre" to claim "peaceable entry". Likewise, tricking their way in, e.g. by claiming they need to use the phone/toilet, gas themselves, is not "peaceable entry". I would like to see a bailiff try and talk their way out of a charge of Burglary Artifice (aka Distraction Burglary) as the word "artifice", translated into Modern English, means "clever trickery". Chances of getting an idiot bailiff arrested and prosecuted are, at present, slim, but there's no harm in making the bailiff think they can. You won't be telling porkies either, unlike the bailiff.

Interesting, do you have a link to the case mentioned ?

[bluebottle]

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Inserting, do you have a link to the case mentioned ?

Would a summary of the case do, GT? Although it is a magistrates court ruling, it is a useful case to quote where the "Threshold Manoeuvre" is concerned.