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    Hi,
    What a wonderful month I'm having!! Im so glad I've found this website!
    Has anyone heard of 'Parking Eye'? I have just received a letter through the post with 2 pictures of my vehicle 1 entering a carpark, and 1 exiting the same car park 11 minutes later. I had sat in my car and waited for my wife to finish shopping. I now have a fine of the princely some of £90 (£60 if paid before 8th April) Ive just done a quick google search on them, and turned up threads such as this: Parking Eye - Nasty tricks - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums
    Is it still true that the fine is unenforceable and I should ignore letters, and not make any contact with this company? or should I pay up quickly to avoid the extra £30 fine?
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    Totally ignore everything that comes from them. They have no contract with you.

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    The have no legal right to fine you. They are not the police or a government department.

    Kepp it safe just in case they are stupid enough to try it on,especially if it says fine on it, but you should ignore.

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    Hi, thanks for taking the time out to answer. It says 'Parking Charge' on it. I haven't contacted them. The thing i can't understand, is, how do they know I didn't purchase a ticket and I just popped into town for 10 minutes?
    Thanks again
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    They put a Parking Charge Notice on it and make it look official in the hope you'll mistake it for a 'Penalty Charge Notice' which does need paying.

    Very naughty!

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    Heard of parking eye, told a friend of mine to ignore them. You will receive another 2 or 3 letters asking for money so burn them or wipe your backside with them if you run out of loo roll but ultimately they will do nothing at all in spite of their threats.

    My friend ultimately paid nowt, got a few more letters and never heard anymore from them, simples
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    Knowing my luck, I'll get a bailiff knocking on the door! I don't know if I've got the balls to leave it! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyphantom View Post
    Knowing my luck, I'll get a bailiff knocking on the door! I don't know if I've got the balls to leave it! lol
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    If it is your intent to throw away £60, please pm me and I'll send you my name and address.

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    haha, ok, I trust you. Thanks x

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    Parking Eye recently had a court judgement go against them - badly. They tried to sue someone who refused to pay their "penalty charge". When it got into court, the judge struck out their £95 "penalty charge" and nearly £3,800 in solicitor's fees they tried to claim, knowing full well they were on the Small Claims track which does not allow legal fees to be claimed. OUCH! They are still smarting from it.
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    Ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebottle View Post
    Parking Eye recently had a court judgement go against them - badly. They tried to sue someone who refused to pay their "penalty charge". When it got into court, the judge struck out their £95 "penalty charge" and nearly £3,800 in solicitor's fees they tried to claim, knowing full well they were on the Small Claims track which does not allow legal fees to be claimed. OUCH! They are still smarting from it.
    Nearly right.

    Parking Eye claimed £240 for two parking tickets. The judge reduced this to £15 on the basis that the rest of Parking Eye's claim amounted to an unenforceable penalty as it exceeded any actual losses suffered by the car park owners as a result of the parking infraction.

    The judge refused to award costs of £4457.20 , agreed with the defendant that he couldn't understand why 4 lawyers were needed for a claim worth a paltry £15, but did award costs of just £95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael View Post
    Nearly right.

    Parking Eye claimed £240 for two parking tickets. The judge reduced this to £15 on the basis that the rest of Parking Eye's claim amounted to an unenforceable penalty as it exceeded any actual losses suffered by the car park owners as a result of the parking infraction.

    The judge refused to award costs of £4457.20 , agreed with the defendant that he couldn't understand why 4 lawyers were needed for a claim worth a paltry £15, but did award costs of just £95.
    Thanks for that, Michael. Could you post up a link to the judgement, if possible? So, Parking Eye were actually £4,587.20 out of pocket, correct? Serves them right. It sounds like the judge applied the rule of "you can't be better off than you were before".
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    So does this mean i should still ignore the fine?
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    Yes, and any further letters.

    Scroll down here for PE's letter-chain:
    Private Parking Companies' Letters, Threats Court Papers - MoneySavingExpert.com Forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyphantom View Post
    So does this mean i should still ignore the fine?
    Yes, because it is not a fine.
    I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be a lawyer.

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    Hehe, I was waiting for your good self Mr Clogs :P OK I trust you

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    However, it would be a good idea to take photographs of the signs (if any) at the car park and the conditions (if any) displayed thereon.

    Was this a supermarket car park and, if it was, which supermarket was it?
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    I have just read the sign in a morrisons store stating the conditions under which they will charge a penalty 2 conditions stood out for me
    !,Parking in disabled bays for disabled badge holders only or penalty
    Did not say you had to display it or where
    2 the term You agree to pay a penalty
    since when can someone say what i agree to
    If by saying you agree to on a sign can i put one on my path and if you come onto my property you agree to pay me money can i penalty charge you?

    like to hear peoples thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wales01man View Post
    I have just read the sign in a morrisons store stating the conditions under which they will charge a penalty 2 conditions stood out for me
    !,Parking in disabled bays for disabled badge holders only or penalty
    Did not say you had to display it or where
    It is not necessary to see a disabled badge to know if the registered keeper of a vehicle is a person with disabilities - although the store's parking goons won't know how!

    2 the term You agree to pay a penalty
    since when can someone say what i agree to
    If by saying you agree to on a sign can i put one on my path and if you come onto my property you agree to pay me money can i penalty charge you?
    No.

    like to hear peoples thoughts?
    What else might one expect of a store chain the HQ of which is in Yobshire?
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    Cleverclogs

    thanks for your opinion you no like yorkshire by gum

    My wife is disabled and she makes sure the badge is displayed id leave it in glove compartment and have a good row with parking goon but she say no
    glad im a southerner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CleverClogs View Post
    However, it would be a good idea to take photographs of the signs (if any) at the car park and the conditions (if any) displayed thereon.

    Was this a supermarket car park and, if it was, which supermarket was it?
    I'll pop up tomorrow and take some pics.

    Its not a supermarket carpark. I THINK its ex-NCP. I know its no excuse, but I have always gone to pick up my wife from town and waited for her on that carpark. It saves me parking on the road and, at the same time, parking on double yellow lines. At least i now know, that would be the cheaper option! as a traffic warden would have moved me on, and not charged me!
    I didn't notice any signs, although thats not saying much, my wife says I always drive around with my head up my ass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkyphantom View Post
    my wife says I always drive around with my head up my ass!
    Perhaps you should ask her whose head she'd prefer to see there?
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    Funky for your amusement (lol---got my 3rd fine last week)

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    3rd May 2011
    Mr Dalton Philips
    Chief Executive officer
    Wm Morrison Supermarkets PLC
    Hilmore House
    Gain Lane
    Bradford
    BD3 7DL

    For the attention of Mr Dalton Philips-CEO Morrisons
    Operation of the Morrisons Store in HHHHHH East Yorkshire
    Dear Sir

    I am writing direct to you as I think you ought to know what is happening at one of your stores here in East Yorkshire.
    I live in the village of XXXXXX and we use the Morrison store located in the adjoining village of YYYYYYY almost every single day.

    Since October 2010, number plate recognition cameras have been installed at the entrance and exit to the car park by the firm ParkingEye.

    My wife is being harassed, yes harassed, by this firm -presumably on your behalf- for daring to take longer than 1½ hours to do our shopping on 2 separate occasions.—a draconian measure indeed-especially as she was not driving at the time.

    When we do our weekly shopping, we invariably take another family relative in the car with us for their shopping, and we also do the shopping at the same time for another elderly relative.

    As we have lived in this village for many years, and know lots of people, shopping within this village store has been an enjoyable experience-both under the previous owners Safeway and latterly Morrisons.

    As you can see from our situation above, it is occassionally impossible to do a large ‘shop’ within 1½ hours—especially as the store is "over trading" (Tesco’s words from their current planning application to build a superstore within 1 mile of your store) with its associated peaks in demand.



    Adjacent to your store’s car park (within 5 metres) is another complex where parking is allowed for 3 hours for such as:
    · Buying a bar of soap from the chemist --3 hours allowed
    · Collecting dry cleaning --3 hours allowed
    · Eye-testing --3 hours allowed
    · Choosing a carpet --3 hours allowed
    · Collecting brochures from an estate agent --3 hours allowed
    · Booking a holiday at travel agent --3 hours allowed
    · Dropping off/picking youngsters up from nursery --3 hours allowed
    I initially debated whether to use that car park, but decided against it in case your company had instructed ParkingEye to issue "Trolley Removal Notices".

    So, reluctantly, we have been forced to do our large joint family "shop" at the giant Morrisons store in Anlaby , on the outskirts of Hull. As you will know from your records, this particular Morrisons does not operate any parking restrictions.

    However, this is inconvenient and adding motoring costs for the round trip of around 18 miles each time.

    Summarising the harassment from ParkingEye:

    2 "Parking Charge Notices" £80 discounted to £50 if paid by...
    2 "Parking Charge Notice to Owner" £80 discounted to £50 if paid by...
    2 "Final Notices" £110 discounted to £80 if paid by .... with threats of:
    · Commecing court proceedings via solicitors
    · County Court Judgements & subsequent destruction of my A1 credit rating
    · Bailiff’s removing my goods
    Naturally, I will not, nor cannot, pay £220 for taking 50 and 59 minutes over the 1½ hours to shop in your store.

    I urge you to remove the 1½ hour limitationor at least alter it to 3 hours and I also request of you to tell ParkingEye to stop this harassment of my family..

    I hope that you consider this letter in the manner it was written - as a dismayed customer who is forced to incur additional expense to travel to your larger superstore.

    Yours sincerely

    vvvvvvvvvv

    zzzzzzzzzzzz


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