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  • MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

    Hi guys,
    Ive seen a lot of posts here about MET and wonder if anyone can help?
    Firstly Im not looking to dodge a fine, i just feel its rather unjust.

    I went to Macdonalds with a member of my Dog Training team for a discussion about work and buy her breakfast before she started. Then I had a second meeting with my business partner here and equally purchased her breakfast and my self another coffee.

    So I was in Macdonalds for 131mins having breakfasts and a couple of business meetings. I was aware of outside signage but subconsciously and not aware that there was a time limit to customers of Macdonalds; I felt it was there for those nipping of to the other retail parks; I never stopped to look at the small print as felt as a customer inside the restaurant I was fine.

    On receiving the parking notice, I went in to Macdonalds and spoke to a business manager who said there was nothing he could do and if I wanted extra time I should have asked; he went to show me the signs in the carpark that mentioned the extra time (these were his signs and not MET) apparently the sign must have been pulled down; equally the one on his door and the one on the stairwell! There was a sign inside the toilets, but I never visited there!

    I tried to explain to the business manager that I was in his restaurant for all that time and that we go every day for team coffee and that I had the registration numbers and entrance time of the staff vans, all sign written the same as mine to prove that we were there for meetings and not to have the benefit of a car park. NO luck with that, he didn't want to know.

    Equally I have now recieved a second letter and this one offers a discount of 50% if I had paid early! this option wasn't on the first letter and the offer is now too late to apply. (seems wrong to only offer after the offer expires!)

    Anyway, thanks in advance for reading my rambles

    Kind regards

    Jeff
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    Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

    tagging [MENTION=5553]charitynjw[/MENTION]

    to LB [MENTION=107169]K9 Jeff[/MENTION] xx
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    • #3
      Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

      [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] many thanks

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      • #4
        Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

        Hi K9 Jeff

        Is the vehicle a hire/lease one?
        Did you take any pictures of the site signage?
        Can you confirm that a windscreen PCN was issued?
        Have you received postal notification?

        It isn't a fine, only an alleged breach of contract claim.

        It isn't wise to ID the driver of the vehicle at the time of contravention, even by implication.
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb


        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.


        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
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        • #5
          Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

          Hi charitynjw, many thanks for the reply,

          Vehicle is owned by my company and I was sent a postal notification addressed to Mr Sussex County Dog Training.

          I go into this Macdonalds daily since it was opened; only 2 mins from where I live and easy to pick up coffee for the staff; hand on heart Ive never noticed 90 min limit despite signs! I think I just subconciously read the first line saying "Macdonalds customers only)

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          • #6
            Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

            Can you post up pictures of the site signage & the postal notification? (Front & rear, obscure personal info but leave dates visible).

            Have you been in contact with the parking management co yet?
            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #7
              Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

              I haven't yet been in contact with the company, only Macdonalds and the company owning the franchise.........
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

                Imho

                In this particular case the ID of the driver would not be necessary due to vicarious liability.
                (CPS v AJH Films - http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2015/1453.html )

                The original Notice to Keeper looks compliant.

                Site signage appears to be compliant per the ParkingEye/Beavis case.

                In any case, you've missed any opportunity to appeal via the parking co or POPLA.

                If it were me I'd wait to see if a letter before (county court) claim turns up.

                I'll give [MENTION=39331]ostell[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5354]mystery1[/MENTION] a nudge for you.
                CAVEAT LECTOR

                This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                Cohen, Herb


                There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                gets his brain a-going.
                Phelps, C. C.


                "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                The last words of John Sedgwick

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                • #9
                  Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

                  Again many thanks for your help, I think if I knew I could have paid 50% I would have done that in time

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                  • #10
                    Re: MET Macdonalds Parking Fine

                    It has been estimated that only about 1% of PCNs end up with a court claim being issued.

                    If you receive a letter before claim (or, of course, a county court claim) you should respond.

                    You may in the meantime get debt collection letters from 3rd party debt collectors, often increasing the alleged debt to £150, £160.
                    These can usually be ignored.
                    CAVEAT LECTOR

                    This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                    Cohen, Herb


                    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                    gets his brain a-going.
                    Phelps, C. C.


                    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                    The last words of John Sedgwick

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