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PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

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  • PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

    Hi All,

    I posted on here a little while ago about my battle with Premier Parking Solutions.
    I constructed a well written letter last month and sent it to them.
    I had a reply on 8th August.. I will now explain the story...

    1. Driver paid for over 48 hours worth of parking on the weekend in question and at no point was there a PCN left on the car.

    2. In April, I was sent a Notice to Keeper through the post. This was the first correspondence I had had from them, as there was no PCN attached to the windscreen or window or anywhere on the car for that matter.. as parking costs were covered throughout the entire weekend
    I was then sent another letter a few weeks to a month or so later, I ignored this.
    I then received a 'Notice Before Action', so decided to take action myself.

    3. I constructed a letter with the assistance from you lovely people on Legal Beagles and sent it off to them. Naming myself as only the keeper etc. - It was air tight and well written. I made them aware of the fact that no PCN was attached to the windscreen and stated everything that I needed to as instructed by you guys, to get them off my back.

    4. On 8th August, I received a letter from them, yesterday, having returned from 2 weeks abroad, I read said letter, thinking it would be them leaving me alone but, alas, it was not.. they sent me 2x images of my car with a PCN attached to the drivers window. I therefore have reason to believe that the warden was 'ghost ticketing' as this was never seen on my windscreen throughout the entire weekend. They are demanding I pay, saying that if the driver does not settle the PCN that the keeper 'may' become liable and again are threatening with court action saying that 'court action will ensue'.

    If anyone could help me in this situation it would be great. I refuse to pay the b@st@rds as the driver had paid for parking there the entire weekend and there were no contraventions occurring.

    Before anyone asks.. a couple of points: It was cash only, no card allowed so there is no paper trail for tickets and the tickets were not kept as the driver received no PCN and therefore didn't feel the need to keep them as evidence.

    My 2 choices I believe are.. write another well constructed letter in my defence so I have my own paper trail.. or... ignore it and hope they do not take me to court.
    But I'm worried about being taken to county court. Not that I believe I'm in the wrong, because I know I'm not.. I just don't want the hassle of being taken to court and I refuse to give these scam artists over £100 of my hard earned money whilst trying to save for a damn mortgage.

    I looked on the BMPA insight for Premier Parking Solutions and according to them, their court actions are so low in comparison to the amount of tickets they write. But, I believe I'd be that 'unlucky person'.

    Many many many thanks in advance.
    A very frustrated individual.
    Last edited by Frustrateddotcom; 19th August 2017, 09:25:AM.
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  • #2
    Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

    Hi

    Apologies for the tardy response, I've been away for a couple of days.

    Was this a 'put your vehicle reg in' ticket machine?
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    • #3
      Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

      No worries. Thanks for replying!
      no it wasn't but.. they have no photographic evidence of there being no ticket displayed in the car. Only images of their PCN which i firmly believe to be ghost ticketed.
      i was thinking on responding to their most recent message in order to have more of a paper trail in my defence and say...
      there is no evidence of there being no ticket in the car, only images of their PCN which was not seen by the driver at any point over the weekend as they left and returned to the car park and replenished their parking ticket which therefore leads me to believe that an act of ghost ticketing has occurred which is actually an illegal offence. Due to the fact that no PCN was present on the car the tickets were not saved as the driver had paid for their stay in the car park. This also did not give the driver an opportunity to appeal the ticket and save their tickets as proof.
      As previously stated the first correspondence was actually the notice to keeper whereby the window for appeal had gone..

      can you help me in terms of adding any fancy law terms into it?

      I just want them to know that i won't back down and that i will heavily defend it in court should they take me. I need them to feel like it won't be worth their while pursuing court.

      Thanks
      Hollie

      Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
      Hi

      Apologies for the tardy response, I've been away for a couple of days.

      Was this a 'put your vehicle reg in' ticket machine?

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      • #4
        Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

        Do you still have the Notice to Keeper?
        If so, could you post up a picture? (Front & rear....personal details obscured).
        Also, could you get a picture of the site signage?
        CAVEAT LECTOR

        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
        Cohen, Herb


        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
        gets his brain a-going.
        Phelps, C. C.


        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
        The last words of John Sedgwick

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

          Can I PM you it somehow?

          Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
          Do you still have the Notice to Keeper?
          If so, could you post up a picture? (Front & rear....personal details obscured).
          Also, could you get a picture of the site signage?

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          • #6
            Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

            apparently you can't send attachments by PM.
            [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] may be able to assist
            I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is
            kati@legalbeagles.info
            But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.
            CAVEAT LECTOR

            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

              Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
              apparently you can't send attachments by PM.
              @Kati may be able to assist
              of course xx
              Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

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              • #8
                Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                I have emailed the pics to you Kati x

                Originally posted by Kati View Post
                of course xx

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                • #9
                  Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                  I have emailed Kati with pics of all correspondence between them and me and unfortunately I live 4 hours away from the car park in question. You could google earth it maybe? Its Athaneaum in Plymouth by the Travelodge in Derrys Cross

                  Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                  Do you still have the Notice to Keeper?
                  If so, could you post up a picture? (Front & rear....personal details obscured).
                  Also, could you get a picture of the site signage?

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                  • #10
                    Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                    Originally posted by Frustrateddotcom View Post
                    I have emailed Kati with pics of all correspondence between them and me and unfortunately I live 4 hours away from the car park in question. You could google earth it maybe? Its Athaneaum in Plymouth by the Travelodge in Derrys Cross
                    nothing in my inbox yet ... I'll keep checking tho' xx
                    Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                    It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                    recte agens confido

                    ~~~~~

                    Any advice I provide is given without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                    I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is Kati@legalbeagles.info
                    But please include a link to your thread so I know who you are.

                    Specialist advice can be sought via our sister site JustBeagle

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                    • #11
                      Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                      That's odd. I definitely sent them to you. let me check my outbox!

                      Originally posted by Kati View Post
                      nothing in my inbox yet ... I'll keep checking tho' xx

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                      • #12
                        Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                        Hi Charitynjw,

                        I have inboxed you the proposed letter I shall be sending to PPS Ltd.
                        Please kindly let me know your thoughts.. I eagerly await your opinion before sending.
                        Many thanks!

                        Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                        apparently you can't send attachments by PM.
                        @Kati may be able to assist

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                        • #13
                          Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                          I'll take a look later this afternoon/evening.
                          CAVEAT LECTOR

                          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                          Cohen, Herb


                          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                          gets his brain a-going.
                          Phelps, C. C.


                          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                          The last words of John Sedgwick

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                            Thanks so much. Much appreciated!

                            Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                            I'll take a look later this afternoon/evening.

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                            • #15
                              Re: PPS Ltd Battle! Help Needed!

                              Problem with Google Maps is that the images can be several years old & they don't always go right into the parking site, so you can't get a close-up of signage.
                              CAVEAT LECTOR

                              This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                              You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                              Cohen, Herb


                              There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                              gets his brain a-going.
                              Phelps, C. C.


                              "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                              The last words of John Sedgwick

                              Comment

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