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  • Please help with letting agent issues!

    Hi


    Hoping someone could assist with this. Apologies for the long and direct post, but I need to vent!:tinysmile_cry_t:


    In mid April I moved letting agent with my 10 properties and was told by the new letting agent it would be straightforward and require little of my involvement but unfortunately, I have not found this to be the case. As an aside I live abroad otherwise I would deal manage the properties myself.


    Some (but not all) of my grievances are as follows:

    1)I was advised I would have one point of contact for dealing with my properties when I enquired about signing up.One of the aspects I didn't like about my last letting agent was that I had 3 points of contact, and it got confusing. I told the agent this. However once I signed up with it seems I have 3 different lettings coordinators and several maintenance people and accounts staff. I am still confused to how maintenance, accounts and the lettings coordinates work, and what responsibility lies with whom, and when I ask the lettings coordinators (who I believe to be my main point of contact) about balances outstanding or raising a s21 they say they don't deal with it and I need to speak to accounts or maintenance. It makes me wonder how they know if rent is overdue if they don't have a handle on the balances outstanding.

    2)The letting agent issued a s21 to a tenant however it was incorrect and had to be reissued. It was due to expire, I believe at the end of June, now I have to wait until end of August as this was not picked up until the 17 June.


    3)I was told property inspections would be done once they took the properties over. Then 3 monthly thereafter (maybe moving to 6 months if the tenants were deemed to be looking after the property which is fine). Several of these initial inspections have yet to be done, despite my chasing. I appreciate tenants can be difficult to get hold of, but it just doesn't give me any confidence in the letting agent.

    4)I had a recent insurance claim that I felt was dealt with really badly by the letting agent. I was quite ill with norovirus at this time but regardless I thought it easier and most sensible that the LA speak to my insurer directly, being armed with the facts from the contractor, rather than coming to me and then me emailing my insurer, and it becoming a case of Chinese whispers. However in the end, despite being so sick, I had to speak to both the contractor and insurer myself. The lady that dealt with this was not capable of handling the process, in that she could not relay what the contractor was saying and half way down the line told me I may have to speak to Steve (?) as she was unable to deal with it. I asked who Steve was and she said her manager. I feel it probably would have been easier to deal with Steve from the start. I spoke to the person next in line to the owner,(more senior I believe than Steve) asking for her help but she wouldn't get involved. Then when the claim was finally agreed and settled the lady who dealt with it initially said the invoice was actually more than the quote she gave to my insurer. When my insurer tackled her on this she was very confused then finally said no she had given the right amount. This took at least 10 emails from myself (who was now very panicked) and my insurer to clarify. I think this lady no longer works for the letting agent.

    5)I advised the letting agent that I was going on holiday the day before I was due to leave. I then get an email a few days into my holiday asking me to clear a contractors bill as it was quite overdue. I couldn't because I cannot access my online banking abroad. But I think what was annoying was that I advised the team of my holiday dates prior to my leaving on 24 June and then discovered the invoices were dated 13 and 20 May. I asked them how come it took so long for them to pass them over to me, and why wait until I'm on holiday but never had a reply. I paid this as soon as I returned home, only to find £50 had already been held from my rental income to pay towards this. I have asked twice for this to be reimbursed ASAP and was told it was in hand but am yet to receive a refund.This does not give me confidence in the teams ability and communication skills, when one member is asking me to pay the full amount and another has already deducted £50. Also if they have a problem refunded why not tell me why say it's in hand and still do nothing.

    6) I gave the go ahead to fit an new boiler in a property on 9 June following on from receiving a quote from the letting agents contractor. It hadn't broken down but a contractor said it could do with replacing. I get an email from the LA on 7 July whilst on holiday, again (!) stating the tenant has ongoing issues with the boiler, does not want to use it and therefore has no hot water. This was the old one and no action had been taken in over a month despite my giving the go ahead to get the new one fitted. I queried this several times and was ignored until well over a week later someone said the contractor was going out to fit a new boiler. They obviously had forgotten about my prior approval, I felt the matter of no hot water was fairly urgent, yet no one was communicating with me oracting on my instructions. I was so frustrated.

    7)I am given no assistance on deposit deductions. At the moment I am presented with the check out report and asked what I want to deduct from the deposit. This is so difficult for me to do from abroad. I am not sure what would be wear and tear, and need some input from the staff, as I had with my last letting agent, but so far deductions seem to be my total decision. Is this the norm?

    8) As regards rent payments, I don't feel the LA knows where they are up to in terms of rent balances outstanding. For example I have just been asked does one of my tenants pay top up directly to me, which no they don't. But why 3 months into our agreement has this not yet been clarified. Why was this question not asked to my last letting agent. Similar with another property, when I asked what balance had been passed over from my last letting agent as outstanding I was never given a response. Just to reiterate again, I was told on signing up that the changeover process would be smooth and I would have little involvement. That said, I am more than happy to assist, but I feel , at the moment, I am having to prompt and take the lead.

    9) General lack of responsiveness from staff - I do find with some members of the team I do have to send an email at least twice in order to get a response. Also repairs will be mentioned that I am told the tenant is still waiting on, but that have not been advised to me before. I was told there was no working smoke alarm downstairs at a property, and the upstairs alarm was missing back in May. There were 2 mains smoke alarms fitted upon the tenants move in, so I asked could they ask the tenant about the upstairs alarm. I am no electrician but maybe if they have removed one alarm this affects the other downstairs? Again I still await a response. Maybe the tenant is difficult to get hold of, but I thought an issue of smoke alarms would be most pressing, and this is really worrying. Even an update email from the staff to let me know would be most reassuring.

    10) I asked by email before signing up with them if they were ok to deal with all utility bills given I lived abroad. They replied it would be fine. Now they tell me this is only when the property is tenanted, and that I have misunderstood. I have argued back that this was never stated In their email and why do I need them to pay bills when the property is tenanted when it then becomes the tenants responsibility but they say this is not their policy. So now I have to log when council tax falls due etc etc. so I can pay them on time.My last letting gent covered all of this.


    11) Same with maintenance bills on empty properties they refuse to pay as they say the property is not generating income. I argue you have 9 other properties to use income from but they argue back this gets confusing. They have done this on one property but said this was a gesture of goodwill (?).


    12) One of my tenants have just left after being in the property for 6 months. They began their tenancy prior to me signing up with this letting agent. Prior to them moving in I redecorated throughout, and have the invoices for these works, as well as inventory from my last letting agent confirming walls were freshly painted.


    The tenants have just left after 6 months and both the letting agent staff and potential tenants who have been to view the property have stated the property needs redecorating throughout in order to let out. Therefore as it has only been 6 months since I last redecorated I was going to make a claim against them for the new decoration with the dps.Had they had been in the property 2 years then I feel that would be wear and tear, but not after 6 months.



    However my problem is that their independent check out report states general decorative order to be 'showing light usage marks', which is somewhat contradictory to all other comments.


    Therefore I feel this weakens my claim. I have asked if someone from the office could go back and discuss it with the company that does the check out and maybe could they amend the report and was told no.





    In short, at the moment I just don't think they have a handle or control on my properties. There are many more issues than just the 12 I have listed. I feel I have to keep checking to make sure things I have agreed to be actioned are indeed being actioned. This is a strain as I feel I am still managing the properties to some extent myself.



    I have written to the owner listing most of these issues but he has just passed my email onto his team, the ones who I am complaining about so I don't expect to have much joy from them but realise I have to give them a chance.

    ]Should I get no joy from them I will obviously have to terminate the contract. Their contract states under termination of contract.

    ]'Two months prior notice must always be provided, and a fee of £250 plus vat will be charged if our tenants remain in the property.'

    Does this mean as I have brought my own tenants across to them that this obbligaton is not relevant or will I still be liable for the £250?

    Thanks for any help, and apologies again for the long post.
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    Re: Please help with letting agent issues!

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    • #3
      Re: Please help with letting agent issues!

      Hi

      I was a letting agent for many years. Sounds likje your agent has got to big to manage. Do you have a service contract with them, might be worth posting it up, taking out any personnel details or property details., Some of the things you ask for are very common for professional LLs to ask, ( you have over 5 property's , so would be in that group ) to be included in there contract.

      1. One point of contact ( one person )
      2. Repairs agreements over certant items that are legal required ( like bhoilers, HW ),
      3. min 14 days between notifying of required action and responding ( we did this if we have agreements on the essentials, )

      Might also be worth getting your boilers flushed, if its a combi gas boiler,,, i would recommend every LL gets it power flushed every few years.

      If your going to change Agent, make sure you contractually agree the basic terms before hand,
      crazy council ( as in local council,NELC ) as a member of the public, i don't get mad, i get even

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      • #4
        Re: Please help with letting agent issues!

        Thanks for the prompt kati, and your kind reply crazycouncil.

        Yes I agree with you totally crazycouncil they are now far too big to manage. Annoyingly as well when i was looking to sign up with them they told me they had several LL's in my situation, ie lived abroad and had a reasonable portfolio, so mine was nothing unusual for them. Added to which one of the reasons I chose them was they have won awards like the Times Best Small Letting Agent of the Year 2016....really, just how?

        I don't have any service contract with them unfortunately other than the terms and conditions of the lettings and management service which is vague. I do however have some emails that do say they will be responsible for all utility payments, and I did mention in one of the emails that i would expect them to be responsive with repairs, to which they verbally agreed.

        As regards termination of the contract should I decide to do so, would I be liable to pay the £250 given the wording of the contract as follows:

        'two months prior written notice must always be provided and a fee of £250 plus VAT will be charged if our tenants remain in the property'

        given that the tenants currently are the ones that I have brought to them, and they have not found?

        Even if they now are considered their tenants, given all the above issues would I still be liable for these fees where I to sever the contract?

        Thanks for any help.


        Last edited by missmooch; 2nd August 2016, 08:45:AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Please help with letting agent issues!

          Hi

          Although they will try i suspect to charge you the £ 250 its not reasonable, and, always agree full service contracts with the agents. As well as financial security in relation to the handling of payments, service contracts are essential to fitting the correct type of management levels to individual property's/portfolios.

          In your case, it may be worth nailing your terms down with your current agent by formal negotiation,, before you go looking around. One of the main advantages to using an agent, is they know the local market very well.

          It may also be worth considering, if you know others that rent property's out around the areas you have some, to get a service agent ( odd job man ), separate to your property agent. It usualy works out cheaper in the long run if you have enough property's between you.
          crazy council ( as in local council,NELC ) as a member of the public, i don't get mad, i get even

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          • #6
            Re: Please help with letting agent issues!

            Thanks once again for your kind reply crazycouncil, you have been a great help. Never heard of the service contract before, always just signed t's and c's with letting agents I have used, so many thanks for the heads up. I will be sure to secure this in future.

            I did go back to them yesterday to ask when I could expect a reply and to ask for a copy of their complaints process. I also added that the issue over not paying utilities/contractors whilst a property was empty, makes dealing with them unworkable for me, and I was hopeful they could change this policy. I mentioned that as invoices/utility bills on empty properties were fast becoming due I was also hopeful of a timely response (although sadly doubtful i will get it).

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