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  • Flight Cancellation compensation

    We were booked to fly to Las Vegas late Sept 2012 with United Airlines for our holidays. Our flight was cancelled when we arrived at the airport. They told us the flight was grounded with technical problems in Washington.

    All United could offer as an alternative was a flight with another airline the next day (with two extra plane changes) or a flight with them the next week.

    Needless to say we declined and they gave us a standard leaflet explaining how we could claim compensation.

    First off we had to really pressurise Expedia to get the cost of the flight tickets back (they kept telling us we should claim it back from United). I explained my contract was with Expedia and it was they who should pay us back and reclaim the money from United. They did refund eventually, but only after a VERY heated argument with an Expedia manager.

    However the real struggle was with United Airlines. I emailed them twice to claim my compensation (which is 600euro per person as per Reg EC 261) to which I only got automated replies. I then wrote a very polite (and lighthearted) letter and again got no reply.

    After much Googling I found a phone number of their Houston offices and spoke to a very polite American lady who found our emails and letters and gave me a claim number. About 5 weeks had passed at this stage.

    I waited, and waited, but still no response, so I read the Regulation EC 261 fully and wrote a threatening letter quoting the Reg plus a complaint to the CAA (who allegedly pursue these claims for passengers). After about 8 weeks we received vouchers worth $300 each for tickets with United to be used within 12 months. I sent them straight back with an angry letter!!

    I dug a little deeper on Google and found an address for United's London office at Heathrow Airport. So I sent a 'letter before action' giving them 14 days to respond.

    That seemed to do the trick. Just after the 14 days I received an email telling me they had 'reviewed our case and decided we are eligible for compensation' and asking me to reply with our details so they could forward claim forms. I received the claim forms and sent them back just before Christmas.

    Yesterday I received our cheques for 600euro each !!!!!

    The whole episode took 4 months to receive a compensation that the Regs say should be paid within 7 days!!! But we got there with much determination.

    PS: The CAA were little or no help.
    They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!
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  • #2
    Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

    Well done you for your perseverence.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by TUTTSI View Post
      Well done you for your perseverence.
      Looks like even more perseverence is called for.

      Took the cheques to our bank. Because they are drawn up in euros we each have to fill out an A4 sized form (triple carboned) so the bank sends them off to their reconciliation centre for conversion to sterling and paying into our accounts. This could take 28 days !!!!!!!

      Jeeeeeez, these guys sure know how to keep you from your money :tinysmile_cry_t:
      They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!

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      • #4
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        Well fought though Basa - if they'd come here and read your posts, perhaps they'd have paid up sooner lol!

        Good result - well done.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by labman View Post
          Well fought though Basa - if they'd come here and read your posts, perhaps they'd have paid up sooner lol!

          Good result - well done.
          Well certainly my membership here gives me the confidence to use the law to obtain my rights, but my post was more to show how airlines (and probably most other suppliers of goods and services) will try to first ignore customer complaints, followed by attempts to deny the law and consumers rights and finally fob them off with much less than their entitlements.

          You have to pursue your rights to the end (after first making sure you are on the correct legal footing of course). It is usually a matter of a few well worded letters and a lot of patience!

          The EU Law in this case was undeniable and the fact United gave us a leaflet indicating our rights and then their letter confirming the reason for the cancellation was tantamount to admission. Even then they tried very hard to avoid payment and only a confident 'LBA' forced their hand.

          I was disappointed the CAA seemed very limp in their pursuit of my rights.

          I bet there are many, many people who either get nothing or accept the derisory offer of money off towards more flight tickets with the airline that let them down in the first place!
          They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!

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          • #6
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            Sadly that is the case in many areas. Most people have no idea of their rights, so the vast majority just give up. The official bodies are frequently useless. Good websites, but pathetic in reality. As you say, knowledge and tenacity are crucial.

            Wouldn't it be good if there was a way of empowering people with their rights - what a difference it would make. Sadly living in Eutopia again!

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            • #7
              Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

              If I had my way consumer law and basic legal rights would be on the national curriculum :amen:

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              • #8
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                Well I sort of agree, but I fear that if all consumers received what they were entitled to we would all end up paying higher prices.

                Now if we could sort out the cheats and thieves as well!!
                They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!

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                • #9
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                  Don't get me started! :grin:

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                  • #10
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                    I have just started the claims "process" for a BA flight delayed over 5 hours leaving Tampa

                    BA initial response was very sorry but we aren't paying you even though they admit the flight was late for technical reasons

                    Have written to the CAA using a very good template on the MSE site

                    Am not holding my breath for a positive response from the CAA

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                    • #11
                      Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

                      Check out the attachments. EC 261 articles 1 through 8.

                      5 hour delays attract the same level of compensation as a cancellation.

                      Be prepared to send a letter before action.

                      The CAA will write to BA in time, but they are very slow.

                      It took me 4 months to get a result through my own efforts, not the CAA.
                      Attached Files
                      They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

                        There are numerous threads about this on the MSE (Martin Lewis) website - I will be submitting a claim against Jet2 for a flight delayed last year (technical reasons, more than 3 hours delay).
                        Will post updates, although they won't be for some time judging from the information above.

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                        • #13
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                          Letter sent to Jet2 on 18.02.13. Acknowledgement received from Jet2 on Saturday (23.02.13) - usual mention about dealing with letters in strict chronological order.
                          My original letter, together with copies of boarding passes and something confirming the extent of the delay, gave 14 days for them to fully respond.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

                            Originally posted by supermac9 View Post
                            Letter sent to Jet2 on 18.02.13. Acknowledgement received from Jet2 on Saturday (23.02.13) - usual mention about dealing with letters in strict chronological order.
                            My original letter, together with copies of boarding passes and something confirming the extent of the delay, gave 14 days for them to fully respond.
                            You need to check out what level of compo your delay and trip distance attracts.

                            Also you should watch out for what reasons they cite for the delay. Reasons beyond their reasonable control (strikes, weather, ash clouds etc) can negate any claims for compo.
                            They were out to get me!! But now it's too late!!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Flight Cancellation compensation

                              Checked the distance - it was 2060km, so I've asked for 2 x 400euros.
                              Delay caused by a fault with the radio if I remember correctly - they had to get one brought in from another airport because they couldn't fix it and didn't have a replacement available. I think this was something well within their control, but I'll see how they respond. I expect them to try to wriggle out of it.

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