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  • Cabot Financial UK LTD VS NeilVox

    Hi guys,

    Ive gone about this a little untidily but here's what I've done so far:-

    Received a claim? Yes:
    Issue Date: 8/01/2018
    Have you Acknowledged the Claim?: Yes
    Total Amount Claimed: 741.86
    Claimant’s Name: Cabot Financial
    Solicitors Firm: Mortimer Clarke
    Original Creditor: Vanquis Bank LTD
    Original Debt (eg. Credit card/Loan/Overdraft) : Credit card
    Particulars of Claim: Please type out in full excluding names/account numbers: By an agreement between Vanquis Bank Ltd & the defendant on or around 01/07/2015 ('the agreement') Vanquis Bank Ltd agreed to issue the defendant with a credit card. The defendant failed to make the minimum payments due& the agreement was terminated. The agreement was assigned to the claimant. THE CLAIMANT THEREFORE CLAIMS 611.86
    Is the debt Statute Barred (have you had any contact with the creditor or claimant over the last 6 years?): No
    List any letters you have sent (eg: CCA/ CPR ) CCA and CPR (recvd by MC and Cabot 27/02/2018
    Any Other Information or Background Details: Had extension to 5th March as they didn't receive first letters sent - resent and called to check - MC said they were about to send a letter to me stating I should already have correspondence in relation to this, I said I hadn't - they were going back to Cabot for documents - this conversation was on 2nd March - heard nothing so far.

    I'd really appreciate some help as I'm stuck for the next steps - thanks in advance.

    NV
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  • #2
    Hi there and thanks for replying.

    AOS has been done.

    The claimant is Cabot Financial (UK) Limited.

    Kindest regards

    NV

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    • #3
      When did they agree an extension until and did you tell the court?

      I think you need to be working on that defence asap even if they haven't supplied documents

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NeilVox View Post
        Hi there and thanks for replying.

        AOS has been done.

        The claimant is Cabot Financial (UK) Limited.

        Kindest regards

        NV
        If you filed the AOS within 19 days your deadline for your defence was 09/02/2018.

        MC said they were about to send a letter to me stating I should already have correspondence in relation to this, I said I hadn't - they were going back to Cabot for documents - this conversation was on 2nd March - heard nothing so far.
        Was this a telephone conversation and did they follow it up with a letter or email agreeing to extend the time for filing a defence?

        Originally posted by Warwick65
        did you tell the court?
        If they confirmed in writing as Warwick asks?

        Also, how long was the extension for?

        A further 28 days was the 08/03/2018, so hopefully it's longer.
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        My posts here are based on my experience of a variety of life events. I have no formal legal training & if in doubt take professional legal advice or contact CAB. If you follow anything I write here you do so at your own risk & I accept no liability for any loss, costs or other outcomes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post
          If you filed the AOS within 19 days your deadline for your defence was 09/02/2018.

          Was this a telephone conversation and did they follow it up with a letter or email agreeing to extend the time for filing a defence?

          Also, how long was the extension for?

          A further 28 days was the 08/03/2018, so hopefully it's longer.

          The parties cannot agree an extension longer than 28 days.

          The Defendant has to inform the court in writing of any extension agreed regardless of whether the Claimant has confirmed it to the Defendant in writing.

          The OP has now missed their Defence filing deadline with the court even if they had informed them of the maximum extension permitted.

          Di

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Diana M View Post


            The parties cannot agree an extension longer than 28 days.

            The Defendant has to inform the court in writing of any extension agreed regardless of whether the Claimant has confirmed it to the Defendant in writing.

            The OP has now missed their Defence filing deadline with the court even if they had informed them of the maximum extension permitted.

            Di
            I thought they had.

            You need to contact the County Court Business Centre NeilVox to see if a default judgement has been entered against you.
            COMPLETING AN N180 DIRECTIONS QUESTIONNAIRE (SMALL CLAIMS TRACK) GUIDE

            My posts here are based on my experience of a variety of life events. I have no formal legal training & if in doubt take professional legal advice or contact CAB. If you follow anything I write here you do so at your own risk & I accept no liability for any loss, costs or other outcomes.

            Private messages are disabled as help is only offered publicly. I do not come on here in the evening, at weekends or on public holidays.

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            • #7
              Hi all,

              Thanks again for the responses.

              I called the CCBC and judgement has not been given as yet.

              To answer your questions:

              There was no follow up letter after the telephone call to MC on the 2nd Mar.
              The court confirmed via email for an extension up to 5th Mar, however they say they cannot do progress unless instructed by MC.

              The MCOL site is still allowing me to file a defence and the CCBC confirmed I can still do this (if that helps.)

              Kindest regards

              NV

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              • #8
                Hi,

                To clarify the call with MC, they said they will not progress until they had sorted the replies to the CCA CPR request - not sure if they honour that but there's no judgement against me currently.

                Kind regards

                NV

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NeilVox View Post
                  I called the CCBC and judgement has not been given as yet.

                  The MCOL site is still allowing me to file a defence and the CCBC confirmed I can still do this (if that helps.)

                  So file your Defence online today before you get a Default Judgment.

                  Di

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Di, will do - I'm using the template letter as we speak - would I use section 77 or 78 for the defence?

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                    • #11
                      Here is my defence:

                      In the Northampton County Court Business Centre
                      Claim No: *********

                      Cabot Financial (UK) Limited
                      Claimant
                      And

                      N

                      Defendant




                      DEFENCE
                      1. I received the claim ********* from the County court business centre, Northampton County Court on 8th January 2018.
                      2. Each and every allegation in the Claimants statement of case is denied unless specifically admitted in this Defence.
                      3. This claim appears to be for a Credit Card agreement regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.
                      4. It is admitted that the Defendant has previously entered into an agreement with Vanquis Bank LTD for provision of credit.
                      5. The Claimants statement of case fails to give adequate information to enable me to properly assess my position with regards the claim.
                      6. The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim fail to state when the agreement was entered into.
                      7. The Claimants statement of case states that the account was assigned from Vanquis Bank Ltd to Cabot Financial (UK) Limited. The Defendant does not recall receiving notice of this assignment.
                      8. It is denied that Vanquis Bank Ltd served any Default notice on the Defendant pursuant to s87 Consumer Credit Act 1974. The Claimant is required to prove that a compliant Default Notice was served upon the Defendant.
                      9. On the 25th February 2018 I sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the claimant’s statement of case under Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 to Mortimer Clarke Solicitors LTD. I requested the Claimant provide copies of the Agreement, Default Notice, Formal Demand and Notice of Assignment.
                      10. Mortimer Clarke Solicitors LTD has not sent any of these documents to me.
                      11. On the 25th February 2018 I sent a formal request for a copy of the original agreement to Cabot Financial (UK) Limited pursuant to section [77 or 78] of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 along with the statutory £1 fee.
                      12. The Claimant has failed to comply with [s77 (1) / s 78 (1)] Consumer Credit Act 1974 and by virtue of [s77 (4) / s 78 (6)] Consumer Credit Act 1974 cannot enforce the agreement.
                      13. I have asked the Claimant if we may agree to extend the time period allowed for filing of my defence pending receipt of documents (as allowed under CPR 15.5), the Parties agreed to an extension to the time period allowed for filing of my defence under CPR 15.5 to allow the Claimants additional time to produce the relevant documentation to evidence their claim, however they have failed to do so.
                      14. Under Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4) Where the claim includes a money claim, a defendant shall be taken to require that any allegation relating to the amount of money claimed be proved unless he expressly admits the allegation. Therefore, it is expected that the Claimant be required to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed.
                      15. I request the court orders the Claimants to provide the necessary documentation in order for me to fully plead my case else the Claim should stand struck out.
                      16. In the event that the relevant documents are received from the Claimants I will then be in a position to amend my defence, and would ask that the Claimants bear the costs of the amendment.
                      17. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief as claimed or at all.
                      Statement of Truth
                      The Defendant believes that the facts stated in this Defence are true.
                      Signed N
                      Dated 22nd March 2018


                      If someone could point me in the direction of point 11 and 12, I'd appreciate it as i'm a little stuck with the options - on the letter to cabot, I citedthe Consumer Credit Act 1974 (Sections 77−79)

                      Thanks again for the help so far.

                      NV

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                      • #12
                        Hi,

                        I've found the answer - thank you all for your help - this site is great and I appreciate your assistance.

                        Kind regards

                        NV

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NeilVox View Post
                          Hi,

                          I've found the answer - thank you all for your help - this site is great and I appreciate your assistance.

                          Kind regards

                          NV
                          File it now
                          COMPLETING AN N180 DIRECTIONS QUESTIONNAIRE (SMALL CLAIMS TRACK) GUIDE

                          My posts here are based on my experience of a variety of life events. I have no formal legal training & if in doubt take professional legal advice or contact CAB. If you follow anything I write here you do so at your own risk & I accept no liability for any loss, costs or other outcomes.

                          Private messages are disabled as help is only offered publicly. I do not come on here in the evening, at weekends or on public holidays.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post
                            I thought they had.

                            My point was to make clear that the parties cannot agree longer than 28 days extension to file a Defence when your post implied that they could.

                            It's important to get the facts right since other members/guests read these threads and potentially act on what they read.


                            Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

                            Also, how long was the extension for?

                            A further 28 days was the 08/03/2018, so hopefully it's longer.
                            Originally posted by Diana M View Post


                            The parties cannot agree an extension longer than 28 days.
                            Di

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                            • #15
                              If you haven't filed it just two points

                              If you have, well its not the end of the world

                              Although I do not know how to argue it , I would include a line saying cabot is unlicensed - if its not in the defence it might be difficult to argue it

                              I would also add the claimant is request to prove their right to bring a claim by disclosing details of the assignment

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